Just exactly what value is scripture to you?
Do you know the difference between extrinsic and intrinsic value? You keep asking questions about extrinsic value, as if you don't know about intrinsic value. Scripture is immensely valuable, because, as I already said, it is the "Word of God".
What is the standard with which you judge doctrine to be sound?
If the Sacred Magisterium approves it.
But if it isn't the final arbiter, what is the point? If the Word of God is not the gold standard, why bother? Why not just post excerpts from the Catechism?
You are viewing the three-fold authority (Magisterium, Scripture, Tradition) as if they are necessarily *hierarchically* related. But they are not hierarchically related. They are three equal authorities, but each in a different mode that complements the other two.
In what year was Mary deemed to have ascended?
I don't know that the *year* Mary ascended was "deemed".
By "end game", I meant result
Sorry, I didn't know you meant "result". I like chess, and "end game" in chess does not mean "result". I thought you were using a chess term.
-A8
No matter what I come up with, you will find some new word or adjective to explain it away. This is what I mean with the word "maleable". This is also why the statements on sins like homosexuality by the pontiff are so incredibly long and in need of interpretation. The system is self propagating so that it can mean many things - thus "universal".
When was it deemed appropriate to sell indulgences? When was it deemed sacramental to confess one's sins to a clergyman? When was the sacrament of confirmation instituted? When was it decreed that the clergy be celibate? When was the first "holy day of obligation" kept? When was the first Easter? When was the first Christmas? When was it OK to bow and pray to a statue and when was it not? All of these things have a starting point long after the close of scripture. In the case of Sunday worship, we actually know when this apostasy was decreed because it took a civil law to enforce it. The indulgence sales have stopped. Are these dogmas, doctrines, rites of passage, dictates, ordinances, initiations, or shall I call them something else? Whatever they are, some Catholics practiced them and some have not. There have been many changes in your system of worship, of this there is no doubt.
Do you know the difference between extrinsic and intrinsic value? You keep asking questions about extrinsic value, as if you don't know about intrinsic value. Scripture is immensely valuable, because, as I already said, it is the "Word of God".
Adding adjectives to the word "value" does not define what value you ascribe to scripture. Since it was proven in my last post that the Catholic church willfully breaks a commandment of God, I can only deduce that scripture has no value to you.
You are viewing the three-fold authority (Magisterium, Scripture, Tradition) as if they are necessarily *hierarchically* related. But they are not hierarchically related. They are three equal authorities, but each in a different mode that complements the other two.
What is the deal with you and three co-equal brances? This is a religion thread with absolutes, not a constitutional thread. If you guys have no standard and just go with what the guy at the top says, then why don't you just say that?
I don't know that the *year* Mary ascended was "deemed".
In what year was it deemed by the chuch at Rome that Mary had ascended? At what point in history was it deemed appropriate, or even sacramental, for Mary to be prayed to? Did the apostles do this? Which ECF insituted this practice?