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Benedict XVI meets Bartholomew I, together for full unity
Asia News ^ | November 29, ,2006

Posted on 11/29/2006 4:47:14 PM PST by NYer

The visit to the Ecumenical Patriarchate is the main reason for the Pope’s trip to Turkey on the Feast Day of Saint Andrew. A joint statement is expected tomorrow. Istanbul is under tight security.

Istanbul (AsiaNews) – Magnificent Greek chants, embraces, statements about mutual commitment to continue working for full unity filled the meeting which Benedict XVI called a moment “of good will and ecclesiastic meaning”.

At the end of the second day of his visit to Turkey, Benedict XVI arrived in the Phanar district, seat of the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople, the first “in honour” amongst Orthodox patriarchate. It is the eve of the Feast Day of Saint Andrew, patron saint of the Eastern Churches.

The meeting with Bartholomew I is the main purpose for the Pope’s visit. And right after flying in from Izmir, Benedict XVI goes straight away to the Patriarchate.

There is an imposing deployment of police at the airport and along the road. The 22-kilometre route is closed off to all traffic: an empty freeway in the heart of the city with a police car at each intersection, police officers everywhere, and an armoured vehicle as part of the convoy.

Along the Golden Horn, impossibly crowded at this time of the day, lighted fishmonger stalls are empty, clients are missing. People waiting for the ferry come forward guardedly to edge of the road, more out of curiosity than anything else.

Al-Qaeda’s threats are too recent to have had any impact on the tight security. For now as the Vatican spokesman Fr Federico Lombardi said, they don’t worry the Pope or his entourage.

Upon arrival in the Phanar, the small Church of Saint George—without its dome because under Ottoman rule only mosques could have domes, and without any cross at the entrance because it is a religious symbol—is illuminated as it were a feast day. Inside the gold of the icons, the walls and the magnificent patriarch’s throne are bright and shine.

Bartholomew and Benedict already know each other and have met before, but the Pope’s visit to Istanbul, where the Pontiff will meet the Patriarch three times, is an expression of their shared desire to pursue the ecumenical journey.

Bartholomew made this point reminding popes and patriarchs of their responsibility along the path of reconciliation. Benedict XVI echoed it when explaining that his visit to the patriarchate is part of the journey to strengthen “the impetus towards mutual understanding and the quest of full unity.”

Earlier, the Pope mentioned “the momentous events that have sustained our commitment to work for the full unity of Catholics and Orthodox. I wish above all to recall the courageous decision to remove the memory of the anathemas of 1054,” taken in a joint declaration by Pope Paul VI and Patriarch Athenagoras, and “written in a spirit of rediscovered love”.

“Signs of this love,” the Pope said, “have been evident in numerous declarations of shared commitment and many meaningful gestures.”

During the ceremony, a celebration of Vespers in all but name, seven antiphons were sung. Two were dedicated to Peter and Paul, patron saints of the Church of Rome and the Church of Saint Andrew. The fifth was composed for Pope Paul VI’s visit and expressed the joy of the Church of Constantinople in receiving the one who sits in the Seat of Peter. A passage from Zachariah, which calls upon the peoples of the East and the West to come together in Jerusalem, is read.

Afterwards Bartholomew and Benedict XVI held a private meeting inside the small compound surrounded by a maze of streets in a district that is relatively close to the heart of Istanbul.

The Pope and Patriarch will meet again tomorrow for the solemn celebration of Saint Andrew in the Church of Saint George and are scheduled to sign a joint declaration. Nothing ground-breaking is expected from the statement, nor is it expected to be a giant leap along the ecumenical path, but it is certainly another step forward, especially in light of the work by the re-established joint commission that is dealing with Catholic-Orthodox theological issues. Just a few weeks ago in fact, the same commission meeting in Belgrade touched upon the fundamental issue of the Petrine primacy.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Ecumenism; Orthodox Christian
KEYWORDS: patriarch; pope; turkey

In this picture released by the Ecumenical Orthodox Patriarchate Pope Benedict XVI, right, is greeted by Ecumenical Orthodox Patriarch Bartholomew I as he arrives at Istanbul's St. George's Cathedral.


1 posted on 11/29/2006 4:47:17 PM PST by NYer
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To: NYer

I think there are good, clean and hilarious captions inspired by this.

2 posted on 11/29/2006 4:50:01 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (* nuke * the * jihad *)
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To: NYer
Wooo boy!

The Esphigmenou monks aren't going like this one bit!

Armed Greek Police plan to forcibly remove monks

 

3 posted on 11/29/2006 4:51:06 PM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

In this picture provided by the Ecumenical Orthodox Patriarchate, Pope Benedict XVI, accompanied by Ecumenical Orthodox Patriarch Bartholomew I, second left, kisses an icon, next to two white boxes containing relics of saints, at the Patriarchal Cathedral of St. George.

REMINDER

EWTN will be providing live coverage of the Patriarch's Divine Liturgy, with the Holy Father concelebrating. Coverage is scheduled for Thursday, Nov. 30 at 2AM EST (for the early birds) with encore at 2PM EST. EWTN is broadcast via cable, satellite tv and over the internet.

4 posted on 11/29/2006 4:51:53 PM PST by NYer (Apart from the cross, there is no other ladder by which we may get to Heaven. St. Rose of Lima)
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To: Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

In this picture provided by the Ecumenical Orthodox Patriarchate, Pope Benedict XVI, accompanied by Ecumenical Orthodox Patriarch Bartholomew I, second left, kisses an icon, next to two white boxes containing relics of saints, at the Patriarchal Cathedral of St. George.

REMINDER

EWTN will be providing live coverage of the Patriarch's Divine Liturgy, with the Holy Father concelebrating. Coverage is scheduled for Thursday, Nov. 30 at 2AM EST (for the early birds) with encore at 2PM EST. EWTN is broadcast via cable, satellite tv and over the internet.

5 posted on 11/29/2006 4:53:01 PM PST by NYer (Apart from the cross, there is no other ladder by which we may get to Heaven. St. Rose of Lima)
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To: NYer
Thank you much for posting this article.

Just a few weeks ago in fact, the same commission meeting in Belgrade touched upon the fundamental issue of the Petrine primacy.

Do you (or any other Freepers) happen to have any further information about the Belgrade commission meeting referred to here? Again, thank you.

-A8

6 posted on 11/29/2006 5:09:24 PM PST by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: the invisib1e hand

The Patriarch looks a little like Professor Dumbledore.

Cool staff!


7 posted on 11/29/2006 5:39:43 PM PST by Tax-chick ("That would be the camel's nose under the mouse.")
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To: Tax-chick
Cool staff!


8 posted on 11/29/2006 5:48:43 PM PST by Carolina
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To: Carolina

WAY cool!


9 posted on 11/29/2006 6:07:59 PM PST by Tax-chick ("That would be the camel's nose under the mouse.")
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To: Carolina

AWEsomely cool!


10 posted on 11/29/2006 6:17:15 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother

I'll bet those are REAL emeralds and rubies, not glass!


11 posted on 11/29/2006 6:18:35 PM PST by Tax-chick ("That would be the camel's nose under the mouse.")
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To: Tax-chick
You know, the Pope really needs to bring back some of the cool stuff his predecessors discarded . . .

. . . why should the Orthodox out-cool us . . .


12 posted on 11/29/2006 6:25:00 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: adiaireton8

Here's a link to comments made by +Met John, the EP's rep to the dialog made some months ago.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1509010/posts

There have been a few threads about comments by the Russian Orthodox about a dust up at the meeting where Met. John seemed to take the side of Cardinal Kasper on primacy issues and vice versa to the irritation of the Russians. These particular threads never got very far as the most prominent Catholic (he says he's not "Roman") "Orthodox hater" on FR showed up with his poison and the threads sort of disintegrated. You might try a Google search as there was quite a bit of news last September and October about the meeting.


13 posted on 11/29/2006 6:34:23 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: AnAmericanMother; Tax-chick

Our hierarchs have the coolest hats, too!

"I'll bet those are REAL emeralds and rubies, not glass!"

Yup, they sure are!


14 posted on 11/29/2006 6:37:13 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis
Now, this is a pretty cool hat, though . . .


15 posted on 11/29/2006 6:45:10 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother

Indeed it is...but as was pointed out by implication, that one has been put in a closet in the Vatican somewhere, Our guys still wear their crowns, as you will see tomorrow during the Divine Liturgy.


16 posted on 11/29/2006 6:47:43 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Cleopatra's fans?


17 posted on 11/29/2006 6:49:36 PM PST by Tax-chick ("That would be the camel's nose under the mouse.")
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To: AnAmericanMother

Goofy, just like a beehive. Pat wouldn't wear it.


18 posted on 11/29/2006 6:50:37 PM PST by Tax-chick ("That would be the camel's nose under the mouse.")
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To: AnAmericanMother

Personally, I dislike to see the Successor of Peter carried around like King Pharaoh.

Humility has its own eloquence.

-Theo


19 posted on 11/29/2006 7:11:42 PM PST by Teˇfilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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To: NYer; Salvation; Nihil Obstat; mileschristi; rrstar96; bornacatholic; Tomassus; Kolokotronis
From the Pages of Vivificat!

Commentary. For me it is always an occasion for great personal joy when the Roman Pontiff meets with the Ecumenical Patriarch. Although I yearn for unity, I know the grave obstacles separating the two Communions and I also know that healing the schism between us will take a miracle.

However, as a Christian, I have learned to expect miracles; there's nothing impossible for God.

I hope that Pope Benedict's visit will bring Catholics and Orthodox closer together and I pray that soon we might be one again, and that healing this original sin of separation may serve to convey a new hope to the world.

- Read also my Op-ed, Orthodox and Catholics should work together to face common challenges, published last May in the Johnstown Tribune-Democrat.

20 posted on 11/29/2006 7:15:04 PM PST by Teˇfilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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To: Tax-chick

"Pat wouldn't wear it."

Its not Greek.


21 posted on 11/29/2006 7:16:55 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: NYer
EWTN will be providing live coverage of the Patriarch's Divine Liturgy, with the Holy Father concelebrating...

Ah, no. The Holy Father will sit (or stand) in the Cathedral as an honored guest, but he will NOT concelebrate. Has the schism be healed and no one told me?

-Theo

22 posted on 11/29/2006 7:17:34 PM PST by Teˇfilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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To: Tax-chick
Cleopatra's fans?

They're called flabellae.

23 posted on 11/29/2006 7:33:03 PM PST by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: NYer; Kolokotronis; AnAmericanMother; Tax-chick
The Pope will take part in the Divine Liturgy but, as you know, he will not be able top aprtake of the Eucharist. A Monsignor who hosts EWTN correctly observed that and explained that this can onyl happen when the fullness of union is achieved, a short term for theological union.

He alwso quite correctly noticed that mere 40 years have brought us so much closer than the previous one thousand years, a great speed indeed in Church terms. Just the fact that we recgonize One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church in us is a true step forward.

It was really touching to watch both of them next to each other. The Pope stood, of course, to the right, and was always half a step ahead of the Patriarch — always first, symbolically and otherwise.

When the Pope came to visit America, the first in the greeting party was the representative of the Echumenical Patriarchate, a small detail that probably went unnoticed at that time. This goes back to the Council of Chalcedon, that established that the Ecumenichal Patriarch shall ahve equal privileges but be second in honor to the Bishop of Old Rome.

Brothers and sisters, this is truly a historic event.

The reading of Zechariah 8:7 in the Cathedral of St. George tonight said it all:

There is hope.

24 posted on 11/29/2006 7:39:57 PM PST by kosta50 (Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Teˇfilo
Is it because the Orthodox wouldn't let him concelebrate, or because he couldn't even if they asked him to? I'm thinking of the last part of #1399 in the Catechism.

What exactly is mean by "a certain communion in sacris, and so in the Eucharist"? Thanks.

-A8

25 posted on 11/29/2006 7:40:01 PM PST by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: Kolokotronis
Thanks!

-A8

26 posted on 11/29/2006 7:40:28 PM PST by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: Kolokotronis

Maybe somebody will take it out and dust it off . . .


27 posted on 11/29/2006 7:58:10 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: NYer
Prayer Thread for Pope Benedict XVI's Apostolic Journey to Turkey November 28-December 1
28 posted on 11/29/2006 7:59:26 PM PST by Salvation (ćWith God all things are possible.ć)
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To: AnAmericanMother; Kolokotronis
Maybe somebody will take it out and dust it off . . .

Someday it will happen. (Most likely not during our lifetimes, though.)

29 posted on 11/29/2006 8:23:30 PM PST by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: Teˇfilo
Humility has its own eloquence.

I agree. "Behold, your king comes to you, humble, and riding on the colt of an ass."

30 posted on 11/30/2006 3:14:25 AM PST by Tax-chick ("That would be the camel's nose under the mouse.")
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To: ELS

Like an allegory on the banks of the Nile. I'd be inspired to Languish, but I have to sort some laundry and roust half a dozen kids out of bed.


31 posted on 11/30/2006 3:15:46 AM PST by Tax-chick ("That would be the camel's nose under the mouse.")
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To: Tax-chick
Yes, Mrs. Malaprop!

(Say hi to Lydia for me!)

32 posted on 11/30/2006 6:20:40 AM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother

That girl ... I should have her doing the laundry, until she grows some sense!


33 posted on 11/30/2006 6:23:23 AM PST by Tax-chick ("That would be the camel's nose under the mouse.")
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To: Tax-chick
If it hasn't happened in the last 230 years or so, it may be past praying for . . .

. . . she's remarkably well-preserved, though.

34 posted on 11/30/2006 6:26:54 AM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother

A good diet works wonders :-).


35 posted on 11/30/2006 6:27:55 AM PST by Tax-chick ("That would be the camel's nose under the mouse.")
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To: NYer

From a Web site:

"What the Orthodox Church teaches on Abortion:
Jeremiah 1:5 quotes God as saying to Jeremiah: "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you; Before you were born I sanctified you."

The Didache, the teachings of the 12 Apostles derived directly from Jesus Christ says: "You shall not murder a child by abortion nor shall you kill a newborn."

What Patriarch Bartholomew teaches on Abortion:

“Although the Orthodox Church believes the soul enters the body at conception and, generally speaking, respects human life and the continuation of the pregnancy,” Bartholomew said, the church also “respects the liberty and freedom of all human persons and all Christian couples. . . .We are not allowed to enter the bedrooms of the Christian couples,” he also said. “We cannot generalize. There are many reasons for a couple to go toward abortion.” (San Francisco Chronicle-7/20/90 p.A1)"

http://www.patriarchbartholomew.net/san_francisco_chronicle.htm


36 posted on 11/30/2006 6:44:26 AM PST by franky (Pray for the souls of the faithful departed.)
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To: franky

Oh, dear.


37 posted on 11/30/2006 7:09:34 AM PST by Tax-chick ("That would be the camel's nose under the mouse.")
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To: adiaireton8
Is it because the Orthodox wouldn't let him concelebrate, or because he couldn't even if they asked him to? I'm thinking of the last part of #1399 in the Catechism. What exactly is mean by "a certain communion in sacris, and so in the Eucharist"? Thanks.

An excellent question. You are right on both counts. Ordinarily, the Orthodox would not allow the Pope (or any other Catholic Bishop or Priest) to concelebrate with them, for the same reason the Pope cannot accept to concelebrate with them: we are not yet in communion and what that means is that we can't share from the same Sacrificed Meal until such communion exists and that will come to pass the day we solemnly agree that we hold a common faith.

The matter of communion in sacris means that the Catholic Church will not withhold the Eucharist from Orthodox Christians under ordinary circumstances -- meaning in the U.S., that if an Orthodox Christian joins the communion line at Mass, he will be given Holy Communion no questions asked. However, the individual Orthodox Christian must follow the directives of his own Orthodox jurisdiction, which ordinarily bans or discourages this kind of behavior from their faithful.

Under extraordinary circumstances -- as far as I understand it -- Catholics can receive the Sacraments of the Eucharist, Annoiting of the Sick, and Reconciliation from an Orthodox Priest and Orthodox Christians can receive the same sacraments from a Catholic priest, without having to request permission from local ordinaries of either Church. Once the extraordinary circumstance has passed, the more restrictive practice is to be reasserted.

I hope this helps.

-Theo

38 posted on 11/30/2006 7:17:36 AM PST by Teˇfilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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To: franky
However, the choppiness of the quotes suggests that this has been arranged to convey the impression that the Patriarch is "pro-choice."

For instance, “We cannot generalize. There are many reasons for a couple to go toward abortion.”

That is true. There are many reasons that women or couples choose abortion. Perhaps he was asked his opinion on the reasons for abortions.

"We are not allowed to enter the bedrooms of the Christian couples,” he also said.

That is also true, at least in the United States. Entering anyone's bedroom (or living room, or kitchen) without permission is a crime. Also, I understand that the Orthodox are generally accepting of contraception, so that may have been the topic of this fragment.

.. the church also “respects the liberty and freedom of all human persons and all Christian couples .

Yes, this is basic. Freedom to choose good or evil is basic to the human condition, and must be "respected," in the sense of not being coerced.

39 posted on 11/30/2006 7:18:57 AM PST by Tax-chick ("That would be the camel's nose under the mouse.")
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To: franky
Is "Patriarch Bartolomais of Chalcedon" quoted in your linked article, one and the same with the current Patriarch Bartholomew?

Is this the official Orthodox position on abortion, or better still, is there an official position and if so, who determines it?

This sounds like Al Gore or John Kerry. You know the line......"personally, I'm opposed to abortion, but I don't want to impose my views on anyone."

Thanks very much, Pontius.

40 posted on 11/30/2006 7:25:05 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: Teˇfilo
That's very helpful. Thank you so much!

-A8

41 posted on 11/30/2006 7:34:40 AM PST by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: adiaireton8

Papal Masses should look like this again. Bring 'em back. BTW, prior to Vatican II to Byzantine-rite deacons were an integral part of the Papal Mass.

42 posted on 11/30/2006 8:19:15 AM PST by Joseph DeMaistre (There's no such thing as relativism, only dogmatism of a different color)
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To: marshmallow

In actuality, no one speaks for Orthodoxy as a whole. In America, Orthodoxy has such lay luminaries as Michael Dukakis, Paul Sarbanes (whom the Ecumenical Patriarch personally honored), and Olympia Snow who are all pro-abortion. I forgot George "Stephie" Stephanopoulos. (Irony, his sister is an Old Calendarist nun.)


43 posted on 11/30/2006 8:22:23 AM PST by Joseph DeMaistre (There's no such thing as relativism, only dogmatism of a different color)
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To: adiaireton8

Also, these paragraphs from Pope John Paul the Great's Encyclical on the Eucharist are also very helpful:

"43. In considering the Eucharist as the sacrament of ecclesial communion, there is one subject which, due to its importance, must not be overlooked: I am referring to the relationship of the Eucharist to ecumenical activity. We should all give thanks to the Blessed Trinity for the many members of the faithful throughout the world who in recent decades have felt an ardent desire for unity among all Christians. The Second Vatican Council, at the beginning of its Decree on Ecumenism, sees this as a special gift of God.89 It was an efficacious grace which inspired us, the sons and daughters of the Catholic Church and our brothers and sisters from other Churches and Ecclesial Communities, to set forth on the path of ecumenism.

"Our longing for the goal of unity prompts us to turn to the Eucharist, which is the supreme sacrament of the unity of the People of God, in as much as it is the apt expression and the unsurpassable source of that unity.90 In the celebration of the Eucharistic Sacrifice the Church prays that God, the Father of mercies, will grant his children the fullness of the Holy Spirit so that they may become one body and one spirit in Christ.91 In raising this prayer to the Father of lights, from whom comes every good endowment and every perfect gift (cf. Jas 1:17), the Church believes that she will be heard, for she prays in union with Christ her Head and Spouse, who takes up this plea of his Bride and joins it to that of his own redemptive sacrifice.

"44. Precisely because the Church's unity, which the Eucharist brings about through the Lord's sacrifice and by communion in his body and blood, absolutely requires full communion in the bonds of the profession of faith, the sacraments and ecclesiastical governance, it is not possible to celebrate together the same Eucharistic liturgy until those bonds are fully re-established. Any such concelebration would not be a valid means, and might well prove instead to be an obstacle, to the attainment of full communion, by weakening the sense of how far we remain from this goal and by introducing or exacerbating ambiguities with regard to one or another truth of the faith. The path towards full unity can only be undertaken in truth. In this area, the prohibitions of Church law leave no room for uncertainty,92 in fidelity to the moral norm laid down by the Second Vatican Council.93

"I would like nonetheless to reaffirm what I said in my Encyclical Letter Ut Unum Sint after having acknowledged the impossibility of Eucharistic sharing: “And yet we do have a burning desire to join in celebrating the one Eucharist of the Lord, and this desire itself is already a common prayer of praise, a single supplication. Together we speak to the Father and increasingly we do so 'with one heart'”.94

"45. While it is never legitimate to concelebrate in the absence of full communion, the same is not true with respect to the administration of the Eucharist under special circumstances, to individual persons belonging to Churches or Ecclesial Communities not in full communion with the Catholic Church. In this case, in fact, the intention is to meet a grave spiritual need for the eternal salvation of an individual believer, not to bring about an intercommunion which remains impossible until the visible bonds of ecclesial communion are fully re-established.

"This was the approach taken by the Second Vatican Council when it gave guidelines for responding to Eastern Christians separated in good faith from the Catholic Church, who spontaneously ask to receive the Eucharist from a Catholic minister and are properly disposed.95 This approach was then ratified by both Codes, which also consider – with necessary modifications – the case of other non-Eastern Christians who are not in full communion with the Catholic Church.96

"46. In my Encyclical Ut Unum Sint I expressed my own appreciation of these norms, which make it possible to provide for the salvation of souls with proper discernment: “It is a source of joy to note that Catholic ministers are able, in certain particular cases, to administer the sacraments of the Eucharist, Penance and Anointing of the Sick to Christians who are not in full communion with the Catholic Church but who greatly desire to receive these sacraments, freely request them and manifest the faith which the Catholic Church professes with regard to these sacraments. Conversely, in specific cases and in particular circumstances, Catholics too can request these same sacraments from ministers of Churches in which these sacraments are valid”.97

"These conditions, from which no dispensation can be given, must be carefully respected, even though they deal with specific individual cases, because the denial of one or more truths of the faith regarding these sacraments and, among these, the truth regarding the need of the ministerial priesthood for their validity, renders the person asking improperly disposed to legitimately receiving them. And the opposite is also true: Catholics may not receive communion in those communities which lack a valid sacrament of Orders.98

"The faithful observance of the body of norms established in this area 99 is a manifestation and, at the same time, a guarantee of our love for Jesus Christ in the Blessed Sacrament, for our brothers and sisters of different Christian confessions – who have a right to our witness to the truth – and for the cause itself of the promotion of unity."


44 posted on 11/30/2006 9:13:28 PM PST by Teˇfilo (Visit Vivificat! - http://www.vivificat.org - A Catholic Blog of News, Commentary and Opinion)
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