We can argue if baptism itself or the intention of the Church to baptize is efficacious, but my point is not that the faithful never receive the Holy Ghost, but rather that when they do, it comes from the Apostles, St. Peter is this instance, and therefore from the Church.
Again, I am not trying to tell you that you are deprived of the Holy Ghost because you are not Catohlic, -- far from it. I am telling you though that when one speaks against the Apostolic Church in the spirit of rebellion, that this is the time when the Holy Ghost is silent in him, even if some other ghosts might be speaking.
No. Clearly it comes from the Holy Spirit.
And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?" -- Acts 10:44-45;47"While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
Peter's preaching the Gospel was the means which the Holy Spirit employed to make itself known. But the power was of the Holy Spirit through the Gospel and not of the man, Peter.
We can argue if baptism itself or the intention of the Church to baptize is efficacious, but my point is not that the faithful never receive the Holy Ghost, but rather that when they do, it comes from the Apostles, St. Peter is this instance, and therefore from the Church.
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Hmmmmm . . .
So, Christ came and died, shedding His Blood horribly so that we might have DIRECT UNFETTERED, UNHINDERED ACCESS TO DADDY.
And Christ then sent Holy Spirit to continue to facilitate WITHIN all such believers that DIRECT ACCESS WITH DADDY.
Yet, Roman doctrine contends that HS insists on their functioning as . . . well . . . not a middle man . .
a middle what . . . a, a, a, . . .
a bureaucratic fossilized MIDDLE-EDIFICE of cold lichen encrusted stones and of contentious factions pretending to be a homogeneous mass over many centuries but actually being a mess of contending political factions warring even with spears and arrows when the weapons of our warfare are not to be carnal???
And this is PROGRESS?
I fail to catch a glimmer of God being that foolish anywhere in reality and certainly anywhere in reality.