[John Philoponus]

I don't know how much of this article I can quote without getting into trouble with copyright laws, so I just posted the first paragraph. Very good read.

[ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY]

An interesting read, however I think the early Christians got it wrong: March 25-April 6 is the period when Jesus was born; not conceived. The Bible states the shepherds were in the fields, watching over their flocks by night. The only time they do that is during lambing season, in early spring.
Very interesting about the great prophets dying on their birthdays; I hadn't heard that before.

[bornacatholic]

That makes sense. Mithras copied the Early Catholic Church

[truth_seeker]

Does this mean December 21st isn't the shortest day of the year?

[Conservative til I die]

Anyone who argues that Christmas is some pagan worship ritual is being illogical. Symbols only have importance in what they symbolize. Whether or not the date December 25th was co-opted at some point is irrelevant. The fact is 12/25 symbolizes Christ's birth. No Christian alive today is celebrating Sol Invictus.

It's no different than wearing a wedding band. Yes, it may have had it's origins in paganism, but the fact is today it symbolizes marriage, whether Christian, Jewish, etc.