Posted on 01/24/2007 8:08:48 AM PST by Alex Murphy
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Thanks.
Will try and comment later.
The short version of it all is that the so called craft are not physical at all. Rather they are metaphysical in nature. Metaphysical is the only word science can use without actually saying spiritual. This is another way of saying that they are not ETIs but most likely they are ECIs or extra celestial intelligences. The Bible says that two thirds of the angelic host remained with God and one third went off with the God of this world (Satan) and the sightings come from one or the other group of beings. In theological language the objects were either sightings of Gods angels or Satans angels.
I agree. The one thing that seems to get overlooked in most conversations about UFOs is cold, hard evidence. A handful of grainy snapshots and an account hardly form proof of anything.
Thanks for the ping. I don't believe UFOs are metaphysical. Spacecraft with a skin-plasma electrodynamic drive is a better explanation.
How could a surface that reflects light, move faster than light, which would be required of such a "spacecraft". Moreover, how could such a spacecraft, which reflecting light, not tear itself apart in moving faster than the velocity of the atomic and nuclear components that make it up.
Perhaps the surface only reflects light at low speeds. According to many reports, as they accelerate they look more and more blurry around the edges and then vanish. The same thing happens with radar returns.
If the components are all accelerated equally by a field that surrounds them, there is no differential force to tear them apart.
I'm just guessing, you understand, trying to make sense of the reports I have seen and heard.
The same thing happens with radar returns.
Which necessarily however, involve light travel times.
This field that surrounds them, what would be the velocity of transmission of that "force"?
This is the bugaboo I find with all of this "UFO" stuff. The proponents do not/cannot deal with information that even we, as human, understand about physics.
Everything Good to You and Yours....
"Wall all be! I waz jus' drinkin' me moonshine wen I done spotted one of them flyin' saucers!"
Yes, considering we're all in the same universe, which would have to be altered (the entire universe) otherwise.
Time in our plane/experience may be sequential from past through present toward future, but such a sequencing is not required for the fundamentals of the universe to hold. Besides, our understanding of time is possibly still primitive since we conceptualize space as three dimensions instead of three variable expressions of a single dimension called space and we have yet to conceptualize dimension time as having three variable expressions (of past, present, and future), meaning we still get stuck believing the universe flows through time as opposed to seeing the universe as existing all at the same time, all temporal variables existing simultaneously.
If you could 'step outside' the universe of spacetime, the 'bubble' would be comprehended as containing all variables of space and time simultaneously.
An analogous notion would be to comprehend the universe as constructed from dimensions which have variable expressions, not all variable of which are mixed together in our sensing state, yet. We have three of space, three of time, we have three of life force, yet we only have one or two of spirit, and another one or two are to follow.
If you wish to discuss this further, I'll stay up and refill my Port glass.
Though evolving (eek!) along similar lines since the universe's inception (type of, and placement in galaxy, star type, metal content, stable atmosphere, water, tectonics....) it would seem they would have taken as long to reach their present state of development, +/- several million years. My take is they haven't been here, in vehicles that reflect light, or in spirit or otherwise.
'Hope the port was otherwise well drunk. Best....
I enjoyed my one glass and went to bed. Perhaps we'll get the chance to discuss this interesting topic in some where/when.
All we need is the dilithium crystals and we can have warp drive too, Zot. Nice screenname.
I understand that the photos were of flares dropped from an F-105. I really need to see the picture of the angel.
Probably a lensing ost gheffect of the camera used.
"This field that surrounds them, what would be the velocity of transmission of that "force"?"
If the skin generates a plasma field surrounding the vehicle, and the field is intentionally assymetrical, the whole field and its contents could move through space without transmitting any force to the contents. How fast a plasma field might move through space, I don't know. It might or might not be limited by the local speed of light.
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