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Crystal Amulet Poses Question On Early Christianity (Denmark - 100AD)
Denmark DK ^ | 3-9-2007

Posted on 03/09/2007 11:37:30 AM PST by blam

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1 posted on 03/09/2007 11:37:32 AM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping?


2 posted on 03/09/2007 11:37:55 AM PST by blam
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King Harold Bluetooth

Denmark-Ahead of it's time.

3 posted on 03/09/2007 11:39:10 AM PST by carolinalivin
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To: blam

I'm sorry, I must have dropped it there...


4 posted on 03/09/2007 11:40:43 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: blam
My Aramaic is not exactly fluent, but phonetically that "magic word" translates to "Thou art our father."

And, yes, that particular formulation is found Jewish Kabbalistic materials, so presumably also Gnostic Christians would find it interesting.
5 posted on 03/09/2007 11:42:28 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: blam
Interesting.

Another possible explanation is trade goods. There were well established trade routes between Scandinavia and the rest of Europe quite early on. Even without direct trade, goods passed from hand to hand to hand and wound up in odd corners.

It makes just as much sense for a well-born woman to receive a play-pretty from the traders as it does that she was a believer . . .

6 posted on 03/09/2007 11:44:23 AM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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King Harold Bluetooth
Denmark-Ahead of it's time.

I thought I could get the connection... but I use verizon and its disabled.

7 posted on 03/09/2007 11:44:58 AM PST by rit
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To: blam
She was most likely not the typical porridge eating woman who slaved every day to carry water from the nearby well. Instead, she was of a higher class and probably wore woollen textiles dyed in strong colours.

Giggling hysterically....

8 posted on 03/09/2007 11:47:26 AM PST by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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To: blam

Me thinks its great, but a little over excited combination of apples and oranges.

One is a set of historical events which marked the growth and advance of Christianity in Denmark, which, in myths, might give Harold Bluetooth more credit that he deserves. But I think the history would credit the era of Harold as marking the beginning of that large-scale religious conversion process, with or without the myths related to it.

While the artifact represents a single individual, who lived among an unknown group of individuals, of an unknown number and with unknown actual religious sentiments. I don't think that one artifact can alter the history of the general introduction of Christianity to Denmark.


9 posted on 03/09/2007 11:54:02 AM PST by Wuli
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Those Vikings, they got around:

Buddha statue from 6th c found in Viking hoard in Helgo, Sweden
Biblical Archaeology Review | March/April 2005 | "Worldwide" editor
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10 posted on 03/09/2007 11:56:58 AM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, February 19, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: MeanWestTexan

cool thanks


11 posted on 03/09/2007 11:59:04 AM PST by GOP Poet
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12 posted on 03/09/2007 11:59:04 AM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, February 19, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: blam

I can't find anything about crystal amulets in the the gospels of the new testament, I must be missing some pages....


13 posted on 03/09/2007 11:59:05 AM PST by gitmogrunt
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"King Harold Bluetooth"

Viking names are like that. (My Father had a "blue tooth"--grey, actually.)

Onund Stump Leg: He lost it in a fight--during battles he set the leg on a stump on the deck of the longboat. Fought anyone that wandered within reach.

Sigurd Snake in the Eye: Can't say why he got this name. Knew of someone in High School that got the white of his eye cut in a knife fight. The scar was jagged and purple ("pretty cool" said my friends) and maybe Sigurd had a scar in his eye that looked like that.)

Gizur the White: An Albino? or just really flaxen locks?

Harold Hardrider (Trygvvason): One of the kings of Norway. 7 feet tall. He rode his "subjects" mercilessly. Had a Christian wife who could read and write. (He didn't.)
14 posted on 03/09/2007 12:05:24 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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Buddha statue from 6th c found in Viking hoard in Helgo, Sweden

The Swedes are Buddhists? I never knew that.

15 posted on 03/09/2007 12:06:04 PM PST by Ole Okie
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To: MeanWestTexan

This could be a viking traders wife. She could have come from the Mediterranean, Britian, someplace like that.


16 posted on 03/09/2007 12:06:47 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: GOP Poet

No problem.

One of many benefits of spending most of my junior high/high school years in Israel.


17 posted on 03/09/2007 12:07:03 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

I thought it was Hardrada - Hard Counsel. But maybe that's my Anglo-Saxon talking.


18 posted on 03/09/2007 12:08:56 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Wuli

That was basically my reaction to it as well. While the possibility of Christians arriving early in Denmark is interesting and possibly of historic significance, that doesn't automatically displace the significance of later events, at least not without additional information to demonstrate historical continuity between this find and later Danish Christianity. There were cases of Christianity appearing early in a region but not really taking root among the general populace until later. I think maybe the author of the article exaggerated the implications of the find for the sake of making the lead sound more exciting, which seems to happen a lot with archaeology articles: everyone wants to announce the discovery of the "first" something or other.


19 posted on 03/09/2007 12:24:18 PM PST by Fedora
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To: blam

Why would this be a stretch to believe? Christianity was moving along with the Romans as they expanded their empire. St. Patrick was a Roman who had been taken in slavery by Irish raiders, then later became a priest to go back and convert the Irish. If Catholicism was in the British Isles by the 4th century, who's to say it hadn't made it's way to Denmark also? Perhaps a Catholic priest had been taken to Denmark as a prisoner by the 'Vikings' of the era, and began spreading the Faith. It's not far-fetched to consider it.


20 posted on 03/09/2007 12:56:37 PM PST by SuziQ
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