Now you just hold on there one darned minute, fella....
Posted on 05/17/2007 10:08:04 AM PDT by Gamecock
No more or less so than the term "protestant". We've learned to live with it.
If "Roman Catholics" were not so arrogant to use the word "catholic" to identify their particular denomination, folks would not need to find an alternative designation.
Or Mitt Romney. 8~)
Hi, TC. Ping to 40. Isn’t it music to our ears?
I agree, but you shouldn't be that hard on the Church of Rome, I mean calling it a morphed, castrated, abridged, pale imitation. After all, people around here are way too sensitive this evening.
Of course, we don’t NEED miracles. We don’t NEED signs. But that did not stop God from performing signs, through Moses, through many other Old Testament figures, through Christ Himself, through the apostles, and through many people since. God after all DID perform signs through Paul and Peter, as reported in Acts. Obviously, “apostolic miracles” ended with the apostles: that is what we call in logic a tautology. Just as “prophetic miracles” ended with the prophets, “Mosaic miracles” ended with Moses. The question is, did ALL miracles end with the apostles? There is no reason to think so. And the great majority of Protestants in the world do not think so. We are told not to demand miracles. But we also should also not mock the idea that God still may be performing them in today’s world.
Doubtless, there are many fraudulant claims of miracles. I strongly suspect that many of the miracles done by televangelists are fraudulant. I hesitate to say that they all are, as dubious as they seem, because it would be presumptuous of me to set limits to what God can do. I also suspect that the vast majority of purported apparitions of Mary, on drainpipes or whatever, are bogus. It is precisely because of the fact of fraudulant claims of the miraculous
that it is so useful that the Catholic Church does rigorous investigations of purported miracles. And the fact is, as anyone who looks into the matter will find, that many of the miracles documented in those investigations have enormously strong evidence in their favor. I say this as a person who is a research scientist and somewhat skeptical by nature.
I am Roman Catholic and I say Roman Catholic. I think your post is very silly. There is nothing particularly insulting about the term "Roman Catholic Church" (especially in contrast with Orthodox Catholic Church).
Romish, Romanist, papist, etc. seem pejorative to me, something similar to referring to expressions of Jewish faith as, for example, "that Jew religion and its Jew ways"--obviously snide and rather ugly.
But to say there is something pejorative about "Roman Catholic Church" is, I think, quite an embarrassing stretch.
Did not Dr. Gamecock post with approval something that asked why Beckwith chose Romanism over confessional Protestantism?
:)
Now you just hold on there one darned minute, fella....
"Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." -- Mark 7:7
Have you apologized to Gamecock yet for bearing false witness that he used the word "Romanist?"
Is that a “No” that you won’t be apologizing to Gamecock for your incorrect assertion that he used the term “Romanist?”
So where's the "lie"?
-A8
If they weren't ill before his smacks to their noggin, they sure were afterward. 8~)
Calling onself a Roman Catholic refers to the Roman or Latin Rite of Liturgy. There are Chaldean Catholics, Byzantine Catholics, Maronite Catholics, Melkite Catholics——we are all Catholics.
I personally haven’t seen (or used) the terms such as Romish, Romanist, Papist, Popish, etc. except as perjoratives.
Excuse me if I don’t LOL about it.
I think that he was the one who exhorted people to touch their TV sets to receive his blessings.
You can’t win on this one. I’ve been berated for calling it the: Catholic Church, Roman Catholic Church, and Roman Church.
Romish is old school and I don’t talk that way, but it wouldn’t matter. Apparently, either I’m an equal opporunity offender, or the left hand doesn’t talk to the right hand in the R___C___C____
(I’ve also been castigated for RC....sigh...)
But those words in no way are like ethnic slurs which are to be avoided at all costs.
One is a matter of choice. The other is a matter of birth. Liberals confuse the two all the time, like when they equate any criticism of homosexuality with true and repugnant racism. We conservatives should be above that.
I’ve never heard “baby splasher.” That’s kinda cute.
The worst slur for the Reformed side, I think, is “snake handler.” I wasn’t aware “Protestant” was considered pejorative.
LOL,
No, I mean this one:
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