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DEVIL ESPECIALLY HATES PRAYERS IN LATIN, SAYS A PRIEST KNOWN AS 'ROME'S EXORCIST'
SpiritDaily ^ | May 30, 2007

Posted on 05/31/2007 8:43:12 AM PDT by NYer

A secular book about exorcism says that one thing rankles demons.

"The devil doesn't like Latin," writes Tracy Wilkinson in The Vatican's Exorcists. "That is one of the first things I learned from Father Gabriele Amorth, long known as Rome's chief exorcist, even though that has never been his formal title.

"Now past the age of eighty, Father Amorth has dedicated the last decades of his life to regaining a measure of respectability for exorcism. Despite his advancing age, he continues to perform the rite several times a week at his office in Rome.

"Scores of people seek him out. He prefers to use Latin when he conducts exorcisms, he says, because it is most effective in challenging the devil."

That tidbit comes to us at a time when Benedict XVI is ready to loosen restrictions on Latin Mass. It's in the new book -- a secular and sometimes skeptical but fascinating glimpse into the world of Italian priests who see their job as casting out demons.

While the numbers dwindle in countries like the Canada, France, and the U.S., exorcists are on the rise on the Vatican's home turf -- thanks largely to priests such as Father Amorth.

In Italy the number of exorcists has grown tenfold in the past decade, according to the priest (who is himself author of two bestsellers, An Exorcist Tells His Story and An Exorcist: More Stories). Credit is also due to the legacy of John Paul II -- who made the notion of exorcism, which was founded by Jesus Himself, respectable again.

Father Amorth was born in Modena in northern Italy and has been a priest since 1954. In 1986 he began performing exorcisms under the tutelage of the vicar for Rome.

According to Wilkinson, Father Amorth accepted the task "after praying to the Virgin Mary for her steadfast guidance and protection."

"On the walls of Amorth's exorcism chamber, eight Crucifixes and pictures of the Madonna are hanging, plus a picture of Saint Michael the Archangel," says the book. "A two-foot-high statue of the Virgin Mary, the Madonna of Fatima, sits on a corner table.

"There are also pictures of the late Pope John Paul II; the popular saint Padre Pio; Amorth's mentor, Father Candido; and Father Giacomo Alberione, the founder of the Society of Saint Paul Congregation."

Father Amorth calls them "my protectors," adding that "the more recent addition of John Paul's has been especially effective and helpful."

"The demons become very agitated at his presence," Father Amorth says of the late Pope -- who himself performed several exorcisms during his pontificate and warned of the rise of dark forces both in 1977 and then in 2005 just days before he lapsed in his final bout with illness.

How is exorcism done? There is the Crucifix. There is the Holy Water. There are the ritual prayers. Many times, those afflicted have to come back on a regular basis -- the process a gradual one.

In Father Amorth's appointment book, women outnumber men by three to one. That is perhaps because they are more in tune with the spiritual, says the exorcist, or because they are special targets as the descendants of Eve.

The very word "hysteria" -- so often seen in the possessed -- comes from the Greek word hyster for womb. Greeks believed it was caused by abnormalities in the uterus.

"I maintain that in part, the reason is because women are the ones who do the most praying," says the priest. "Another reason is women are more inclined to approach a priest than are men, in case of need."

In some cases, say other exorcists, the devil attempts to mask possession as insanity. This sets up conflict with the far newer practice of psychology -- which looks down on exorcism as the psychiatrist's couch has replaced the confessional.

"An exorcism is the residue of a medieval practice completely devoid of any foundation in reason," the book quotes Sergio Moravia, a philosopher at the University of Florence, as saying. "I don't think it's crazy. It's worse."

Exorcists counter that psychological diagnoses such as "multiple personality" and "schizophrenia" are clinical covers for an infestation.

That opinion is shared by the many who have sought the services of Father Amorth -- finding relief when the devil was cast away after years of frustration at the hands of psychiatrists who saw their problems so differently.

Blessed salt and Holy Water are often used not just by the exorcists themselves, but by those who have been exorcised -- to stave off further disturbances.

Extraordinary strength, preternatural knowledge, speaking in foreign tongues unknown to the victim, vomiting of strange objects, and violent aversion to holy objects make pure psychological explanations suspect in strong cases.

Prayer, of course, also chases the devil and his manifestations away -- apparently, Latin in particular.

Bishop Andrea Gemma of Isernia -- who himself performs exorcisms -- ascribes the Church's move from Latin as part of a global plot to undermine Christianity.

"The devil is happy with the near-disappearance of Latin," said the bishop.

Does exorcism mask psychological illness with the supernatural, or is psychology itself a ruse, at least in certain instances, to prevent deliverance?

We have only to study the ministry of Jesus to know the answer.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: deadlanguage; demon; exorcism; kooks; piusxcult; satan
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1 posted on 05/31/2007 8:43:13 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
Father Amorth calls them "my protectors," adding that "the more recent addition of John Paul's has been especially effective and helpful." "The demons become very agitated at his presence,


2 posted on 05/31/2007 8:44:24 AM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer

Tell the USCCB!!!!


3 posted on 05/31/2007 8:47:22 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer

I have read a couple of Father Gabriele Amorth’s books....I had NO idea he was in his 80s. One of his books spoke of one of JP2’s exorcisms. The books were fascinating.


4 posted on 05/31/2007 8:47:37 AM PDT by tioga (Fred Thompson for President.)
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To: NYer

Very interesting article. This subject is one I am both drawn to and repelled by.


5 posted on 05/31/2007 8:48:37 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: NYer; All

Latin Translation Service - English to Latin Translation
http://www.appliedlanguage.com/languages/latin_translation.shtml


6 posted on 05/31/2007 8:49:30 AM PDT by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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To: NYer
In related news, Lamer Devil, aka “allah,” gets its panties in a knot over prayers in pig latin.
7 posted on 05/31/2007 8:49:53 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: NYer
"The devil is happy with the near-disappearance of Latin," said the bishop.

The aspect of the disappearance of the proper Litergy, rather than the disappearance of the Latin lanquage itself is probably the greatest happiness.

A Priest, converted from ECUSA, once told Neuhaus that the thing he missed most in Catholic Churchs today was the litergy in english. He was, of course, referring to the Book of Common Prayer as compared the the US Catholic liturgical desert, LOL

8 posted on 05/31/2007 8:50:28 AM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: NYer

Hmmm...
Devil hates Latin.
Bishops hate Latin.

Nah, there couldn’t be any connection. It’s just a coincidence.

:-)


9 posted on 05/31/2007 8:55:14 AM PDT by Deo volente
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To: NYer

LOL LOL


10 posted on 05/31/2007 8:56:00 AM PDT by ears_to_hear
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To: ears_to_hear

Why are you laughing about this article? It is very serious business.

Or are you saying it is OK for the devil to roam the earth and to possess souls without the possibility of exorcism?

Or are you just laughing at Catholicism?

“Love one another” Christ’s words!


11 posted on 05/31/2007 8:59:59 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer

And he knows this how?


12 posted on 05/31/2007 9:06:13 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: Salvation

We are not dualists with competing gods.

Satan is a subject of God and he and His minions can do nothing without the permission of God.

But that aside the idea that he “hates” latin “ more than other languages is silly .

The Bible tells us he hates and is subject to the NAME OF JESUS.

Jesus and the apostles did not speak latin and yet they managed to have authority over them.


13 posted on 05/31/2007 9:06:34 AM PDT by ears_to_hear
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To: ears_to_hear

**Jesus and the apostles did not speak latin and yet they managed to have authority over them.**

Good point.


14 posted on 05/31/2007 9:10:37 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer
Probably because the Devil doesn't understand Latin.

PRESS 1 FOR ENGLISH, PRESS 2 FOR LATIN

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15 posted on 05/31/2007 9:14:52 AM PDT by OESY
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To: OESY

So does that mean the devil doesn’t understand Spanish, French, German, or Farsi? Just good old ‘merikan english?


16 posted on 05/31/2007 9:16:48 AM PDT by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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To: NYer
How does anyone kow the devil even knows Latin???

You guys keep telling us that Mary defeated Satan...Why does anyone have to worry about Satan???

17 posted on 05/31/2007 9:16:58 AM PDT by Iscool (OK, I'm Back...Now what were your other two wishes???)
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To: Iscool
So, the Devil isn't a fallen angel? He doesn't have a supernatural intellect?

I don't know where you got this thing about Mary defeating Satan, meaning past tense. The Devil is still "prowling about the world, seeking the ruin of souls."

18 posted on 05/31/2007 9:30:10 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: Iscool

EXSÚRGAT Deus, et dissipéntur inimici ejus, et fúgiant qui odérunt eum, a fácie ejus.
Sicut déficit fumus, deficiant: sicut fluit cera a fácie ignis, sic péreant peccatóres a fácie Dei.

Ecce Crucem Dómini, fúgite, partes advérsæ.
Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, radix David.

Fiat misericórdia tua, Dómine, super nos.
Quemádmodum sperávimus in te.

EXORCIZÁMUS te, omnis immúnde spíritus, omni satánica potéstas, omnis incúrsio infernális adversárii, omnis légio, omnis congregátio et secta diabólica, in nómini et virtúte Dómini nostri Jesu + Christi, eradicáre et effugáre a Dei Ecclésia, ab animábus ad imáginem Dei cónditis ac pretióso divíni Agni sánguini redémptis +. Non ultra áudeas, serpens callidíssime, decípere humánum genus, Dei Ecclésiam pérsequi, ac Dei electos excútere et cribráre sicut tríticum +. Imperat tibi Deus altíssimus +, cui in magna tua supérbia te símililem habéri adhuc præsúmis; qui omnis hómines vult salvos fíeri, et ad agnitiónem veritátis veníre. Imperat tibi Deus Pater +; ímperat tibi Deus Fílius +; ímperat tibi Deus Spíritus Sanctus +. Imperat tibi Christus, ætérnum Dei Verbum caro factum +, qui pro salúte géneris nostri tua invídia pérditi, humiliávit semetípsum factus obédiens usque ad mortem; qui Ecclésiam suam ædificávit supra firmam petram et portas ínferi advérsus eam numquam esse prævalitrúras edixit, cum ea ipse permansúrus ómnibus diébus usque ad consumatiónem sæculi. Imperat tibi sacraméntum Crucis +, omniúnque christiánæ fídei Mysteriórum virtus +. Imperat tibi excélsa Dei Génetrix Virgo Maria +, quæ superbíssimum caput tuum a primo instánti immaculátæ suæ Conceptiónis in sua humilitáte contrivit. Imperat tibi fides sactórum Apostolórum Petri et Pauli ceterorúnque Apostolórum +. Imperat tibi Mártyrum sanguis, ac pia Sanctórum et Sanctárum ómnium intercéssio +.

Ergo, draco maledicte et omnis légio diabólica adjurámus te per Deum + vivum, per Deum + verum, per Deum + sanctum, per Deum, qui sic diléxit mundum, ut Filium suum unigénitum daret, ut omnis, qui credit in eum, non péreat, sed hábeat vitam ætérnæ: cessa decípere humánas creatúras, eisque æternæ perditiónis venénum propináre: désine Ecclesiæ nocére et ejus libertáti láqueos injícere. Vade, sátana, invéntor et magister omnis fallaciæ, hostis humánæ salútis. Da locum Christo, in quo nihil invenísti de opéribus tuis; da locum Ecclesiæ uni, sanctæ, cathólicæ, et Apostólicae, quam Christus ipse acquisívit sánguine suo. Humiliáre sub potenti manu Dei; contremísce et éffuge, invocato a nobis sancto et terríbili Nómini Jesu, quem ínferi tremunt, cui Virtútis cælórum et Potestátes et Dominatiónes subjéctæ sunt; quem Chérubim et Séraphim indeféssis vócibus laudant, dicéntes: Sanctus, Sanctus, Sanctus Dóminus Deus Sábaoth.
I. Dómine, exaúdi oratiónem meam.
A. Et clamor meus ad te véniat.
B. Dóminus vobíscum.
C. Et cum spíritu tuo.

Orémus Oratio

Deus cæli, Deus terræ, Deus Angelórum, Deus Archangelórum, Deus Patriarchárum, Deus Prophetárum, Deus Apostolórum, Deus Mártyrum, Deus Confessórum, Deus Virginum, Deus qui potestátem habes donáre vitam post mortem, réquiem post labórem: quia not est Deus præter te, nec esse potest nisi tu, créator ómnium visibílium et invisibílium, cujus regni non erit finis: humíliter majestati glóriæ tuæ suplicámus, ut ab omni infernálium spirítuum potestáte, láqueo deceptióne et nequítia nos poténter liberáre, et incólumes custodíre dignéris. Per Christum Dóminum nostrum.
Amen.

Ab insídiis diáboli, libera nos, Dómine.

Ut Ecclésiam tuam secúra tibi fácias libertáte servire, te rogámus, audi nos.

Ut inimícus sanctæ Ecclésiae humiliáre dignéris, te rogámus, audi nos.

Et aspergatur locus aqua benedicta. +


19 posted on 05/31/2007 9:34:23 AM PDT by Frank Sheed (Dead Ráibéad.... Lifelong Irish Papist!)
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To: ears_to_hear
Satan is a subject of God and he and His minions can do nothing without the permission of God.

Why would God "need" Satan when Man fits the bill so well?

20 posted on 05/31/2007 9:34:39 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: AFPhys
This subject is one I am both drawn to and repelled by.

Possession is very real and so is Hell. Several saints have been allowed to see it. The most recent one is a Polish nun named St. Faustina. Here is her account.

Sr. Faustina is 'transported' to Hell -
Today I was led by an Angel to the chasms of hell. It is a place of real torture; how awesomely large and extensive it is! The kinds of tortures I saw: the first torture that constitutes hell is the loss of God; the second is perpetual remorse of conscience; the third is that one's condition will never change; the fourth is the fire that will penetrate the soul without destroying it - a terrible suffering, since it is a purely spiritual fire, ....the fifth torture is continual darkness and a terrible suffocating smell, and, despite the darkness, the devils and the souls of the damned see each other and all the evil, both of others and their own; the sixth torture is the constant company of Satan; the seventh torture is horrible despair, hatred of God, vile words, curses and blasphemies. These are the tortures suffered by all the damned together, but that is not the end of the sufferings. There are special tortures destined for particular souls. These are the torments of the senses. Each soul undergoes terrible and indescribable sufferings, related to the manner in which it has sinned. There are caverns and pits of torture where one form of agony differs from another. I would have died at the very sight of these tortures if the omnipotence of God had not supported me. Let the sinner know that he will be tortured throughout all eternity, in those senses which he made use of to sin. I am writing this at the command of God, so that no soul may find an excuse by saying there is no hell, or that nobody has ever been there, and so no one can say what it is like.
 
I, Sister Faustina, by the order of God, have visited the abysses of hell so that I might tell souls about it and testify to its existence. I cannot speak about it now; but I have received a command from God to leave it in writing. The devils were full of hatred for me, but they had to obey me at the command of God. What I have written is but a pale shadow of the things I saw. But I noticed one thing: that most of the souls there are those who disbelieved that there is a hell. When I came to, I could hardly recover from the fright. How terribly souls suffer there! Consequently, I pray even more fervently for the covnersion of sinners. I incessantly plead God's mercy upon them. O my Jesus, I would rather be in agony until the end of the world, amidst the greatest sufferings, than offend You by the least sin. (741)

21 posted on 05/31/2007 9:42:12 AM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: AFPhys

Ditto.


22 posted on 05/31/2007 9:47:00 AM PDT by Frank Sheed (Dead Ráibéad.... Lifelong Irish Papist!)
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To: onedoug

Scripture indicates that Satan is subject to God.


23 posted on 05/31/2007 9:53:00 AM PDT by ears_to_hear
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To: Frank Sheed

Good job on exorcising that FReeper!


24 posted on 05/31/2007 9:54:04 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: Iscool
How does anyone kow the devil even knows Latin???

************

Don't underestimate the devil.

25 posted on 05/31/2007 9:57:47 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Frank Sheed

Hey FRiend!
Can you do the Prayer to St. Michael, as well?

We just got a fantastic statue of St. Michael in, of all places, a Protestant bookstore. Although my hubby had to take a sharpie to the Devil at the bottom because he looked like a pretty nice guy.


26 posted on 05/31/2007 9:58:12 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: LiteKeeper

Do not expect an intelligent reply?


27 posted on 05/31/2007 10:00:53 AM PDT by verity (Muhammed and Harry Reid are Dirt Bags)
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To: netmilsmom

http://www.catholicdoors.com/prayers/latin/latin040.htm

Full Rite. I don’t know the date, however. There are sites on the internet with the ancient Rite dating to the 1600’s.

F


28 posted on 05/31/2007 10:01:35 AM PDT by Frank Sheed (Dead Ráibéad.... Lifelong Irish Papist!)
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To: Frank Sheed

Thanks!


29 posted on 05/31/2007 10:03:57 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: NYer

That’s just silly.


30 posted on 05/31/2007 10:07:13 AM PDT by bethelgrad (for God, country, the Marine Corps, and now the Navy Chaplain Corps OOH RAH!)
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To: netmilsmom

Have the statue blessed! Many police wear St. Michael medals for protection as do those in the military.

Sancte Michael Archangele, defende nos in proelio, contra nequitiam et insidias diaboli esto praesidium. Imperet illi Deus, supplices deprecamur: tuque, Princeps militiae coelestis, Satanam aliosque spiritus malignos, qui ad perditionem animarum pervagantur in mundo, divina virtute, in infernum detrude. Amen.


31 posted on 05/31/2007 10:07:23 AM PDT by Frank Sheed (Dead Ráibéad.... Lifelong Irish Papist!)
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To: Frank Sheed

Wonderful!
Now if I could just pronounce all the words, I’d have it made.
I’ll take it to the Latin speakers at my parish.


32 posted on 05/31/2007 10:11:12 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: Iscool; NYer; Salvation

Iscool, thank you for giving me another opportunity to talk about Mary! Your question is legitimate, and for the sake of brevity I’ll just say that this article is very generalized, sketchy and incomplete. It’s just talking a bit about the validity of exorcism, obviously a deep and controversial and complex topic. But I have read several things by Fr. Amorth himself.

In an interview last year with “Inside the Vatican” magazine he specifically talks about Mary and how often he is not successful in the exorcism until he invokes Mary’s help. He also says the devil is capable of the most vile and blasphemous language, yet never can speak against Mary.

As long as we are on planet earth, the devil is not “overcome” - in the sense that he’s alive and well. But our own prayers, the sacraments, and in these rare extreme cases of possession, God does intervene and Mary does intervene and offer protection.

Also, another topic, this article sets up a simplistic dichotomy between psychology, psychiatry (actually it speaks of those two fields as if they were the same, and they’re not) and spiritual realms. Even Fr. Amorth has stated that 90% of “possession” cases are actually physical, mental or neurological illnesses. He works closely with doctors and usually will not take on a client until a medical evaluation has ruled out those aspects.

“Oh, Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.”

“Sub tuum praesidium confugimus, sancta Dei Genetrix; nostras deprecationes ne despecias, in necessitatibus; sed a periculis cunctis libera nos semper, Virgo gloriosa et benedicta!”


33 posted on 05/31/2007 10:25:08 AM PDT by baa39 (Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us. Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.)
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To: ears_to_hear

Not in Torah.


34 posted on 05/31/2007 10:33:21 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: NYer; All

FYI, any fellow Christians, did you know that our Holy Father has asked that we learn the basic prayers in Latin? To this end a neat, small, handy booklet has been compiled by the Dominicans, entitled “Praying with the Universal Church.”

It contains all the great “standards” (Pater, Ave, Acts of faith, hope, & love, Magnificat, Veni Creator, Anima Christi, etc) with English on one side and the Latin translation on the other.

Also has a simple introduction about the value and benefits of Latin.

Here’s the order info:
(Priests may want to order for congregations, as ours did?)

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35 posted on 05/31/2007 10:34:52 AM PDT by baa39 (Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us. Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.)
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To: NYer
Blessed salt and Holy Water are often used not just by the exorcists themselves, but by those who have been exorcised -- to stave off further disturbances.

Let's postulate for a moment that these people were indeed being harassed by demons (bear in mind that Jesus healed diseases as well as cast out demons; the latter doesn't always cause the former). I fail to see how Blessed Salt and Holy Water will help them. Indeed, it is that material point of view that would, IMHO, prevent them from being healed once and for all.

It is very interesting to read the accounts of exorcism in the Bible and compare them with what this man is saying. You will notice that demons were never cast out with the "aid" of physical objects. Off the top of my head I know of two things that seemed to have the desired effect. The power and authority of the name of God:

"She [the demon possessed] kept this up for many days. Finally Paul became so troubled that he turned around and said to the spirit, "In the name of Jesus Christ I command you to come out of her!" At that moment the spirit left her." Acts 16:18, though with some caveat:

"Some Jews who went around driving out evil spirits tried to invoke the name of the Lord Jesus over those who were demon-possessed. They would say, "In the name of Jesus, whom Paul preaches, I command you to come out." Seven sons of Sceva, a Jewish chief priest, were doing this. (One day) the evil spirit answered them, "Jesus I know, and I know about Paul, but who are you?" Then the man who had the evil spirit jumped on them and overpowered them all. He gave them such a beating that they ran out of the house naked and bleeding." Acts 19:13-16.

And, to some degree, the spiritual strength of the one speaking:

"After Jesus had gone indoors, his disciples asked him privately, "Why couldn't we drive it out?" He replied, "This kind can come out only by prayer.[b]" Mark 9:28-29 (the note says that some mss. say prayer and fasting).

Ultimately, this must be remembered above all: demons are stronger than we are and they are not afraid of Latin, water, or salt. They are afraid of the Holy Spirit of God living in us. Because of the gift of Jesus, and only because of it, is the power within us greater than the power in them.

36 posted on 05/31/2007 10:36:19 AM PDT by Señor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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To: ears_to_hear

I could not agree more, what silliness..


37 posted on 05/31/2007 10:39:37 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak....)
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To: NYer

To believe this one would have to believe that the delivery is more important than the content and meaning of the prayer.

If that is the case, then prayer becomes a magical incantation rather than a communication with God. Rote prayer without contemplation is not prayer.

I think it is much more likely that Father Amorth has a very intense love for the Church that goes back to pre-V2 days. The reaction of the devil is falsely attributed to the language of the prayers rather than the seriousness of the man delivering the prayers.


38 posted on 05/31/2007 10:43:37 AM PDT by kidd
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To: NYer

cool!


39 posted on 05/31/2007 10:59:01 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: ears_to_hear
Jesus and the apostles did not speak latin and yet they managed to have authority over them.

Indeed. However, that is not really the point.

Satanic hatred for Latin is due to its timelessness and immutability. Being a "dead" language, it is essentially unchanging. No new meanings for words, no genderless politically correct idiom, to give but two examples. Outside of the Catholic Church, it is largely unused. Nobody is monkeying with it.

All of this makes it harder to sow the seeds of heresy and confusion through the use of ambiguous and novel language. IOW, it is a safeguard of doctrine and thus of ........truth!!

Demonic hatred of Latin is not the same as my hatred of Japanese or Hindi. It has nothing to do with its pronouncability, grammar or syntax.

40 posted on 05/31/2007 11:03:38 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow; N3WBI3
Satanic hatred for Latin is due to its timelessness and immutability. Being a "dead" language, it is essentially unchanging. No new meanings for words, no genderless politically correct idiom, to give but two examples. Outside of the Catholic Church, it is largely unused. Nobody is monkeying with it.

And you know this how? What is your "infallible source"?

In our area latin is a popular subject in the high schools. Maybe they are demons leaning the language huh?

Just give us your source that anything about satan is immutable ( an attribute of God alone) and your infallible source that Satan has a SPECIAL hatred of latin

You may not know this , but there is a world out here that is not brainwashed and like ACTUAL evidence

41 posted on 05/31/2007 11:20:01 AM PDT by ears_to_hear
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To: marshmallow

That makes a whole lot of sense to me!
Spot on!


42 posted on 05/31/2007 11:22:17 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: marshmallow
All of this makes it harder to sow the seeds of heresy and confusion through the use of ambiguous and novel language. IOW, it is a safeguard of doctrine and thus of ........truth!!

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Interesting, marshmallow. Thanks for a new perspective.

43 posted on 05/31/2007 11:27:19 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: baa39

http://www.unavoce.org/ltrose.htm


44 posted on 05/31/2007 11:29:10 AM PDT by Frank Sheed (Dead Ráibéad.... Lifelong Irish Papist!)
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To: AFPhys
Very interesting article. This subject is one I am both drawn to and repelled by.

I highly recommend "Hostage to the Devil" by Malachi Martin. Terrifying book though.

45 posted on 05/31/2007 11:31:56 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: marshmallow; ears_to_hear
Being a "dead" language, it is essentially unchanging.

The being the case he must hate Sanskrit, Coptic, Ge'ez, Minkin, and several thousand others.. This is silly beyond compare..

46 posted on 05/31/2007 11:34:12 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak....)
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To: Aquinasfan

Martin’s book was one of those ones I couldn’t put down, but it was disturbing nevertheless.


47 posted on 05/31/2007 11:34:55 AM PDT by Hoosier Catholic Momma (Just doing the procreating other Americans won't do: Baby #4 due 10/8/07)
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To: Aquinasfan

Martin’s book was one of those ones I couldn’t put down, but it was disturbing nevertheless.


48 posted on 05/31/2007 11:35:12 AM PDT by Hoosier Catholic Momma (Just doing the procreating other Americans won't do: Baby #4 due 10/8/07)
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To: Hoosier Catholic Momma

Oops...pregnant brain strikes again :)


49 posted on 05/31/2007 11:35:40 AM PDT by Hoosier Catholic Momma (Just doing the procreating other Americans won't do: Baby #4 due 10/8/07)
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To: Iscool
How does anyone kow the devil even knows Latin???

The devil has an angelic intellect. He knows Latin, every other human language, and a whole lot more besides.

And all of his knowledge is devoted to evil.

The good news is that Christ has defeated the devil, and he's a chained dog who can do only what God permits.

50 posted on 05/31/2007 11:36:01 AM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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