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Leaving the Catholic Church, A Letter of Resignation
Lazyboy's Rest Stop ^ | Robert Mayberry

Posted on 06/01/2007 2:28:41 PM PDT by Gamecock

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To: Suzy Quzy; Dr. Eckleburg

Actually, in my preaching you’d hear an awful lot about the bible. If any instance of doctrine came up that I disagreed with, then I’d mention that disagreement and the reasons for it.

That would not be limited to disagreements with the rcc, but could include any number of teachings from other denominations.

Since I treat them all equally, to include any apostates within my own denomination, I’d say that means I am not anti-rcc.


241 posted on 06/01/2007 5:56:06 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: vladimir998; Gamecock
Henry VIII rightly asked why sovereign England should be paying money to Rome.

His correct answer was -- it shouldn't be.

242 posted on 06/01/2007 5:56:29 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: ears_to_hear
It is too easy to point to someone and dismiss their words as based on "hatred" and then think you have taken the high ground.

To the contrary, it's actually quite painful. And yet the hate flows free for Catholics on the FR Religious forum.

243 posted on 06/01/2007 5:56:40 PM PDT by Petronski (Keep your eye on www.fredthompson.com very soon.)
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To: ex-snook
You disagree with that and think something what is true is silly. Jesus read Jewish scripture but did not write Christian scripture

The Gospels are actually OT ( written before the church was founded) Jesus taught from the scriptures that told of His coming and they were sufficient for salvation.

Jesus did not HAVE to write scripture, He did not come to write scripture. That would be the work of another of the trinity, the Holy Spirit. Jesus came to be the propitiation for the sins of men, not to write a book.

The fact He did not PHYSICALLY write the scriptures does not mean they are not the inspired word of God

Jesus believed in teaching through people both good and bad. He selected Apostles and told them to teach. He established an Apostolic succession with Peter as the head. It still is what it was and the gates of hell will not prevail against it.

Please show us where Jesus established "apostolic succession" . Please show us where Jesus told anyone the gifts he gave them were transferable to others.

244 posted on 06/01/2007 5:57:20 PM PDT by ears_to_hear
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
The fact that being pro-Scripture and pro-Jesus Christ is seen as anti-Catholic is the RCC's problem.

And the rape victim was just asking for it.

245 posted on 06/01/2007 5:57:45 PM PDT by Petronski (Keep your eye on www.fredthompson.com very soon.)
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To: OpusatFR

The site is not this mans testimony.

He is not responsible for the thoughts of others


246 posted on 06/01/2007 5:59:05 PM PDT by ears_to_hear
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To: GCC Catholic; ears_to_hear

There is nothing that prevents any of us from being polite. I’m sure we all get riled every now and then, but there are good reasons for good manners. If nothing else, they put yourself and your ideas in a good light.

I don’t think that you see the hard words in the rcc conversion testimonies. They are so rcc to rcc’s that they don’t realize how cutting they are to a non-rcc.


247 posted on 06/01/2007 6:00:53 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins

Why don’t you just concentrate on YOUR religion and the way YOU read the Bible and teach that? Why do you feel so shaky that you have to preach what you THINK OTHER Churches believe? NO priest has ever preached about what ANY other religion preaches....why should you....it shouldn’t matter to you since you feel like yours is the TRUE Church.....even though your sect of Christianity was founded byJohn Knox in Scotland in 1560!!! 1560....hmmmmm.


248 posted on 06/01/2007 6:02:01 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her Phoniness is Genuine!!!)
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To: Petronski
God please rescue those young minds!

It is God that has delivered them into my care. They hear about the work of Christ and they learn how to properly divide the word of God.

Most of those kids were already rescued out of the Catholic church :)

I worry less about their minds than their eternity

249 posted on 06/01/2007 6:03:18 PM PDT by ears_to_hear
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To: ears_to_hear

“What was the reason for his gut hatred of anything not “arian “ and “perfect” that led to his insane mission?”

He was a deluded evil man who led a lot of deluded people into sin.

You need to look deeply within yourself to find out why you need to blame the world’s ills on a strawman.

I’ll pray for you. You need to come home.

Peace and goodnight.


250 posted on 06/01/2007 6:04:08 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: ears_to_hear
It is God that has delivered them into my care.

Uh, no.

Most of those kids were already rescued out of the Catholic church...

God please rescue these young minds (if any of this is actually true)!

251 posted on 06/01/2007 6:05:56 PM PDT by Petronski (Keep your eye on www.fredthompson.com very soon.)
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To: Suzy Quzy

Check with anyone, and you will find that John Knox did not found the Methodist church. I’m sure that’s just one of those things you have missed in previous posts, so we’ll just let it pass.

But, just to play the game: My ordination goes back to John Wesley whose ordination goes to the Anglicans, that goes to the Old English Church that goes to Orthodoxy that goes to Jerusalem.


252 posted on 06/01/2007 6:05:56 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: ears_to_hear
The site is not this mans testimony. He is not responsible for the thoughts of others

No, he is not responsible for the thoughts of others... but he IS responsible for EVERY item on HIS SITE. I see no place for viewers to post anything, nor a disclaimer such as the one here on FR.

253 posted on 06/01/2007 6:07:37 PM PDT by GCC Catholic (Pray for your priests and seminarians...)
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To: Suzy Quzy
Why do you feel so shaky that you have to preach what you THINK OTHER Churches believe?

There are some in this world who preach what they KNOW OTHER churches DO NOT believe.

254 posted on 06/01/2007 6:08:00 PM PDT by Petronski (Keep your eye on www.fredthompson.com very soon.)
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To: Gamecock
drstevej

You may want to update your ping list. Dr. Steve J was banished from the forum several years ago.

255 posted on 06/01/2007 6:11:18 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: xzins

You wrote:

“You don’t seem to understand the Reformation.”

You didn’t know the difference between Eastern Orthodox or Catholic. I have no reason to believe you’re going to know the “Reformation” any better.

“But, that’s OK. Many people don’t. The Reformation, at its core, was a doctrinal rebirth, and was not a rebellion.”

Untrue. It was a rebellion. That is undeniable.

“Henry’s acts place him squarely outside that reformation, but crucially, so does his doctrine.”

Again, untrue. Henry was a “Reformer”. I did not say he agreed fully with Protestants. Henry agreed with no one but Henry. The same, however, could be said of Luther too!

“By grace only, through faith only, because of Christ only.”

Those are what Protestants claims. Not all “Reformers” fully embraced those ideas, not did they restrict themselves to those ideas alone. Look at how Protestants persecuted other Protestants such as the Anabaptists.

Please think.

The fact that Henry VIII was less of a Protestant than Luther doesn’t mean he was not a “Reformer”.

And, of course, you still ignored his changes in the ritual books. Why? Because you have no logical response.


256 posted on 06/01/2007 6:11:30 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

You wrote:

“Henry VIII rightly asked why sovereign England should be paying money to Rome.”

Nonsense. Henry asked himself, “Why shouldn’t I steal what is given to the Church?”

“His correct answer was — it shouldn’t be.”

Who says? Why shouldn’t the Catholics of England give money to the Catholci Church? Who was Henry to say otherwise? Don’t say, “He was the king.” That doesn’t mean Henry had the right to rob his people or the Church.

It is amazing how Protestants ignore or excuse robbery and murder as long as it was against the Catholics.


257 posted on 06/01/2007 6:15:08 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: xzins

Oh Methodist....sorry I confused you with the other anti-Catholic ears-to-hear. Methodism was founded by John and Charles Wesley and George Whitefield in Oxford, England in 1729!! Wow...since 1729!! Your sect isn’t quite 300 yet.


258 posted on 06/01/2007 6:19:30 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her Phoniness is Genuine!!!)
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To: tiki
Sancte Michael Archangele, defende nos in proelio, contra nequitiam et insidias diaboli esto praesidium. Imperet illi Deus, supplices deprecamur: tuque, Princeps militiae coelestis, Satanam aliosque spiritus malignos, qui ad perditionem animarum pervagantur in mundo, divina virtute, in infernum detrude.

From the deliverance thread I am guessing this is supposed to haver more power

Could you explain to me how an angel can be a saint? Where does the bible tell us that angels are to be intermediaries?

I asked a priest that question and he could not answer me.

How can a spirit that was never a man, that has to look at us to learn about God and mercy be called a saint?

259 posted on 06/01/2007 6:20:53 PM PDT by ears_to_hear
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To: Petronski

A little bit wierd.


260 posted on 06/01/2007 6:21:07 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her Phoniness is Genuine!!!)
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