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Christ the Light's towering $190 million project is the most expensive church in U.S. history
CONTRA COSTA TIMES ^ | 06/03/2007 | Rebecca Rosen Lum

Posted on 06/03/2007 6:16:10 AM PDT by Alex Murphy

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To: WileyPink

You wrote:

“Hey Vlad, you are welcome to join the Sunday School Bible Study group each Saturday evening and Sunday to study His word and to worship him. On the Internet, btw, not a building.”

Thanks for the offer, but I alreadt have Saturday and Sunday devotions and study to attend to. I do appreciate the offer, however.

“I stand by my statement of Mr Murphy. This exchange proves it. Just check his postings and check mine.”

No, I am more interested in your postings with me.

“I evidently was wrong when I first said that your disagreement was in good spirit.”

You didn’t say that to me. You said it to someone else.

“Your true spirit is beginning to show towards my Born-Again worship of my Lord and Savior.”

Wrong. I have made no comment about, and have really no interest in, your worship. My comments have been entirely focused on your strange either/or philosophy regarding the building of cathedrals and care of souls.

“I was wrong. I thought you had a rational discussion.”

I always do. You’re the one who is not.

“You can respond if you wish, (so you can have the last word) but I’m through with this.”

Thanks again.

“Again, you are welcome to join the Bible Study caucus if you like.”

Thanks once more.


21 posted on 06/03/2007 12:05:51 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: vladimir998
You didn’t say that to me. You said it to someone else.

You are correct, I stand corrected.

In Christ

22 posted on 06/03/2007 12:10:58 PM PDT by WileyPink ("...I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6b)
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To: Alex Murphy

I like it. I also like the Crystal Cathedral although walking into it the first time was a bit disorienting. That is truly a major architectual achievement. Dazzling.

It expresses light and openness.

The bible didn’t say we have to build Gothic. (Watch someone claim it’s in Leviticus...)

Anything is better than the 70’s and 80’s galvanzied barns.


23 posted on 06/03/2007 1:04:53 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Alex Murphy

Looks like something from Dubai.


24 posted on 06/03/2007 1:06:48 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (I would rather vote for Lindsay Lohan than Lindsey Graham.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Now we know what Jonah felt like in the whale.


25 posted on 06/03/2007 4:08:29 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: murphE; vox_freedom
Take a peek at this gem:

Our Cathedral is oriented toward Lake Merritt, which flows ultimately into the Pacific.

Jesus is returning from Lake Merritt. Spread the word.

This suggests the Word flowing into the Christian community of the East Bay and through us into one that is larger and more interconnected than ever before.We reach out to our neighbors around the Pacific Rim, just as the Pacific Rim has sent us so many of her priests, religious, and faithful. The Cathedral position also acknowledges the ocean, a primal element of God's creation and an obviously important one for those of us in the Bay Area.

And it's all about us, isn't it?

I give.

26 posted on 06/03/2007 4:11:56 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Alex Murphy

But of course this doesn’t qualify as a “megachurch.”


27 posted on 06/03/2007 4:28:13 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Duncan Hunter 2008 (or Fred Thompson if he ever makes up his mind))
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
The Cathedral position also acknowledges the ocean, a primal element of God's creation

[sigh]

28 posted on 06/03/2007 4:43:06 PM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah; vox_freedom
Compare that to the church Fr. Pfeiffer built:

St. Isidore the Farmer Roman Catholic Church

29 posted on 06/03/2007 4:48:07 PM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: murphE

very nice!


30 posted on 06/03/2007 5:16:50 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Larry Lucido; Canticle_of_Deborah; Alex Murphy; NYer; WileyPink; Calpernia

Quite a monument. But is it a monument to the glory of God? I could not personally in good conscience contribute to or authorize such conspicuous consumption.

There is a Murphy’s Law that goes like this:

The fundamental solvency of an organization is inversely proportional to the depth of the carpeting in the foyer.


31 posted on 06/03/2007 5:22:41 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Alex Murphy

There is no justification for spending that kind of money on a church sanctuary!


32 posted on 06/03/2007 5:23:27 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
Quite a monument. But is it a monument to the glory of God?

This is exactly my point from my earlier post.

Wiley

33 posted on 06/03/2007 5:39:30 PM PDT by WileyPink ("...I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6b)
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To: Alex Murphy
Construction on France's Notre Dame broke ground in 1163 and wrapped up 182 years later in 1345

Koelner Dom took longer. From Wikipedia: "Construction of the Gothic church began in 1248 and took, with interruptions, until 1880 to complete – a period of over six hundred years."

34 posted on 06/03/2007 8:51:34 PM PDT by PAR35
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