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Protestants and the rosary
Paternosters Blogspot ^ | February 26, 2007 | Chris Laning

Posted on 06/05/2007 10:53:58 AM PDT by Frank Sheed

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To: XeniaSt

5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.

9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

11 Give us this day our daily bread.

12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.

13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

The context is telling you that when you pray, pray in earnest, not just to appear holy, to hear yourself pray.

“After this manner therefore pray ye:”

After you said your prayer, then pray the following, “Our Father...”

Matthew 6:5-6:8 is referring to your own prayers, not the one God gave us. He specifically told us to say that one.


101 posted on 06/05/2007 5:05:21 PM PDT by kenth (I got tired of my last tagline...)
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To: Suzy Quzy
Are we HURTING you by praying the Rosary?

Not at all actually!

102 posted on 06/05/2007 5:05:33 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Frank Sheed

Objections to the Rosary arise from the experiences of the Reformation. Those who abandoned devotions to Mary and the Saints than ransacked Scripture for reasons to justify their choice. Recitation of the rosary is no more “babbling” than Pentacostals speaking in tonques. Likewise, the Geneva service is, like that of a Zwingli, a Christian service such as can be conducted only by laymen. Generally speaking, that would be song, prayers, Scripture, and preaching. Abandonment of the priesthood also means that the Lord’s Supper is a rare event, although “the breaking of the bread” seems not have been that rare at all. Luther saw this, which is why his service was more like a Low Mass in German. Even Calvin would have celebrated the Eucharist weekly, but went along with his colleagues since he wanted to point up the contention that the Priesthood was a kind of spiritual tyranny.


103 posted on 06/05/2007 5:05:50 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: ladyinred

Good answer.


104 posted on 06/05/2007 5:07:03 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her Phoniness is Genuine!!!)
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To: pjr12345

Sadly, you don’t even follow what Jesus IN THE BIBLE taught us to do.......Holy Communion comes to mind...I’m sure that is in your Bible...right?


105 posted on 06/05/2007 5:09:34 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her Phoniness is Genuine!!!)
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To: Enosh

Some time ago Christianity Today had an excellent article on Evangelicals and Mary. I can see where the saying of the Hail Mary would be a problem for Protestants. But the concept of the Rosary to meditate on the Life of Christ while saying set prayers could find valid application in Protestantism.

Why not instead of reciting a Hail Mary recite one of the Psalms while meditating on Jesus. An example would be to recite psalm 22 while meditating on Christ’s death on the cross. Prayer is part of Christian discipline. With all the distractions we have isn’t it good to have a means of turning all our attention to the Lord? This is what the Rosary does for some.


106 posted on 06/05/2007 5:10:21 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Blogger

You’re saying that Catholics hold the Blessed Mother as a god but are so bad at worshipping her they won’t admit it—even to themselves?

Freegards


107 posted on 06/05/2007 5:13:32 PM PDT by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed says Keep the Faith!)
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To: Suzy Quzy

Testy testy! I was just trying to help!

Actually, I observe the Lord’s Supper as instituted by Him as a memorial in remembrance of the atoning sacrifice He was to undertake.


108 posted on 06/05/2007 5:18:10 PM PDT by pjr12345 (I'm a Christian Conservative Republican, NOT a Republican Conservative Christian.)
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To: Suzy Quzy

Yes.


109 posted on 06/05/2007 5:18:49 PM PDT by tiki
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To: lastchance; Enosh
That's a good idea.

Originally the Rosary was a replacement for reciting the 150 Psalms of David, for those who didn't have a Psalter or couldn't read. So by reciting Psalms as you count off the beads, you're simply returning to the original idea!

Of course, an essential part of the Rosary is meditating on one of the Mysteries, which changes with every ten beads.

110 posted on 06/05/2007 5:22:52 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: pjr12345; Suzy Quzy

..............

Actually, I observe the Lord’s Supper as instituted by Him as a memorial in remembrance of the atoning sacrifice He was to undertake.

108 posted on 06/05/2007 6:18:10 PM MDT by pjr12345

I'm with you, every year, I celebrate Passover as Yah'shua asked me to.
b'shem Yah'shua
111 posted on 06/05/2007 5:29:45 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: kenth
"Do you ask others to pray for you

Never. Please don't do that. I don't consider myself worthy.

"Do you pray for others yourself?"

Yes, I pray to God for us all.

112 posted on 06/05/2007 5:30:40 PM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: alpha-8-25-02
And most catholics cannot find the Lord’s prayer in the Bible.

Too true

113 posted on 06/05/2007 5:31:35 PM PDT by ears_to_hear
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To: sandyeggo
I'm so glad I'm not alone in having to watch out for the 3 A.M. Worries . . . .

. . . the Rosary does help, it's very calming.

114 posted on 06/05/2007 5:31:39 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: N3WBI3
One of the most eye opening and prayer enhancing things I ever heard was the our father laid out as a framework for prayer.

That is because that was the purpose of the prayer in scripture. The Apostles said Lord HOW should we pray (not WHAT should we pray)

Jesus responded when you pray, pray LIKE this ( not PRAY THIS)

It was given to us as a pattern for prayer.

Also when He gave us this pattern He revealed the fatherhood of God to the elect. Something that was not a part of Jewish thought but is clearly taught in the NT

115 posted on 06/05/2007 5:35:12 PM PDT by ears_to_hear
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To: Tax-chick
Hey, I crack up every time I see your tagline!

‘“Admiral Boy—Vice-Admiral Babe,” says Gloriana, “I cry your pardon. The heat of these present times ripens childhood to age more quickly than I can follow."'

116 posted on 06/05/2007 5:36:10 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Enosh
Really ? In the 30 years i have been a protestant I have NEVER heard the Lords prayer said in a church service or in a bible study or meeting.

I have attended studies ON it but it is not a common practice especially in the evangelical churches

117 posted on 06/05/2007 5:37:39 PM PDT by ears_to_hear
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To: AnAmericanMother

I’ve got the book on order from the library.

I think it’s a wonderful line ... “I’ve got the end-of-school-year dog-wearies. Get out of here so I can drink, already!”


118 posted on 06/05/2007 5:37:49 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Oh, a Queen may love her subjects in her heart, and yet be dog-wearied of ’em in body and mind.")
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To: Between the Lines
But Suzy's question was not "convince", but "make".

Nobody can make you say the Rosary, and even if they try to convince you, you don't have to read what they write.

(I was saying the Rosary for years before I became a Catholic, but then again the writer excepts Piskies . . . and we were so 'high' our noses bled)

119 posted on 06/05/2007 5:38:16 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: sandyeggo
Really? Why not?

Probably because we see it as a part of scripture that is intended to teach us, not be quoted verbatim

120 posted on 06/05/2007 5:39:20 PM PDT by ears_to_hear
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