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Protestants and the rosary
Paternosters Blogspot ^ | February 26, 2007 | Chris Laning

Posted on 06/05/2007 10:53:58 AM PDT by Frank Sheed

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To: xzins

Yes; at least in Paul, unqualified “God” refers to the Father, and unqualified “Lord” refers to Jesus — while obviously not denying that the Father is Lord, nor that Jesus is God.

“Mother of God” is, at best, not a Biblically useful expression, and is not a Biblically used expression. Mary was not mother to the divine nature of Christ. If one’s concern is to exalt Jesus, as the Bible does, he’ll have no need of it. If his concern is to exalt Mary, as the Bible doesn’t, the Bible is expendable anyway.


1,141 posted on 06/09/2007 3:51:35 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: AlaninSA; ears_to_hear
Cheap shot...and one that requires a response of, "protestant 'preachers' are equally guilty, just disconnected and therefore more difficult to tabulate."

Sorry to say that is so true.

1,142 posted on 06/09/2007 4:51:25 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; 1000 silverlings; P-Marlowe; pjr12345
"Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." -- Matthew 28:19-20

Notice he did not say all the things I have taught you and that I will instruct you in after my death.

Jesus made it clear that he had taught them all they needed to know to pass on to make disciples

1,143 posted on 06/09/2007 4:58:30 PM PDT by ears_to_hear
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Amen


1,144 posted on 06/09/2007 4:59:47 PM PDT by ears_to_hear
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To: 1000 silverlings

The unregenerate always resist the HS, you know that


1,145 posted on 06/09/2007 5:00:46 PM PDT by ears_to_hear
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To: AlaninSA; ladyinred
Are they less honored by God than the priests that molested children in their charge?
Cheap shot...and one that requires a response of, "protestant 'preachers' are equally guilty, just disconnected and therefore more difficult to tabulate."

All men are sinners, but Protestants have had much less of it and they have dealt with it openly without compromise.

Mine was no more of a cheap shot than the one taken at Protestant evangelists. When you dis it out expect to get it back ok?

You may all the rosaries for me you wish, God does not hear them anyway and so they are spiritually neutral

1,146 posted on 06/09/2007 5:10:55 PM PDT by ears_to_hear
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To: BibChr

Thanks, BC.

I’ll remember this next time MoG comes up.


1,147 posted on 06/09/2007 5:14:31 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: 1000 silverlings; ears_to_hear; P-Marlowe; pjr12345; HarleyD
Funny, if the HS only goes to the elect few, the "Church Fathers", why such a harsh rebuke in Acts?

7:51 -- Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.

AMEN.

It wasn't until I joined this forum that I heard RCs saying Christ spoke only to the Apostles; instructed only the Apostles; and blessed only the Apostles, and thus our only hope was to get our butts to the guys who now postured themselves to be 21st century apostles and get some of what they were doling out.

However, as you say, the Gospel is free and available to all those with ears to hear and eyes to see and a heart circumcised by His word.

"Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it." -- Colossians 2:8-15

We are "complete in Him," and "every trespass has been forgiven" and "nailed to the cross."

Solus Christus. Sola gratia.

1,148 posted on 06/09/2007 5:15:40 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: ears_to_hear; 1000 silverlings; P-Marlowe; xzins; GoLightly; pjr12345; ladyinred; BibChr
You may all the rosaries for me you wish, God does not hear them anyway and so they are spiritually neutral

I'm not sure "neutral" is the right word. Nowhere in Scripture are we told to pray to anyone other than the Triune God of creation. And whether we obey or not, there are consequences.

"Not unto us, O LORD, not unto us, but unto thy name give glory, for thy mercy, and for thy truth's sake.

Wherefore should the heathen say, Where is now their God?

But our God is in the heavens: he hath done whatsoever he hath pleased.

Their idols are silver and gold, the work of men's hands.

They have mouths, but they speak not: eyes have they, but they see not:

They have ears, but they hear not: noses have they, but they smell not:

They have hands, but they handle not: feet have they, but they walk not: neither speak they through their throat.

They that make them are like unto them; so is every one that trusteth in them...

He will bless them that fear the LORD, both small and great.

The LORD shall increase you more and more, you and your children...

The dead praise not the LORD, neither any that go down into silence.

But we will bless the LORD from this time forth and for evermore. Praise the LORD." -- Psalms 115:1-8;13-14;17-18


1,149 posted on 06/09/2007 5:37:59 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: ladyinred

Hi, ladyinred. Hope you’re feeling better. Christ is strength.


1,150 posted on 06/09/2007 5:40:26 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: 1000 silverlings; Dr. Eckleburg; P-Marlowe; xzins; ears_to_hear; GoLightly; Mad Dawg; Jaded; ...
Because of threads like this one, spreading error

OK, and I think you (all) did a wonderful job of that about 800 posts ago. So why keep on it?

You all are sola scriptura types, right? The Bible is your sole rule of faith and practice, right?

Well, why don't you start acting in accordance with the Holy Word of God, then?

Because the witness you are giving them poor Cat-lick heathen heretick apostates sure ain't gettin' the job done.

The best way to witness to the scriptures is to act according to them. Those who don't act according to them are heretics. And the way you keep on makes you just that.

NOT Bible believers. Yes, your actions, your posting habits, make you out to be heretics...teaching, through your actions, a way that is directly contradicted by the scriptures.

Bible believers!!! Hah!

And, by the way, I will be happy to provide you chapter and verse if you, as a educated Bible believer, don't know it already in your conscience.

1,151 posted on 06/09/2007 5:46:23 PM PDT by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus CINO-RINO GRAZIE NO)
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To: markomalley

Please point out my posts which cause distress, thanks


1,153 posted on 06/09/2007 5:54:57 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings ("May all the saints preserve us." Mrs. Pickles)
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To: 1000 silverlings
I do not have time to go through all of them. Your post 1128 implies that we Catholics are reprobate in our heresy. One example.

Are you going to start acting scripturally now? Please? Or are you going to keep on in your own heresy...

1,154 posted on 06/09/2007 6:02:26 PM PDT by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus CINO-RINO GRAZIE NO)
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To: markomalley; Dr. Eckleburg; P-Marlowe; ears_to_hear

Post 1128 repeats what Christ said in 2 biblical passages. Paul tells us to preach the Word. None of the words or the view expressed is my own, but is instead God’s and He wishes for people to hear it. I am merely doing what the two commanded.


1,155 posted on 06/09/2007 6:08:30 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings ("May all the saints preserve us." Mrs. Pickles)
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To: 1000 silverlings
I am merely doing what the two commanded.

You are acting in error. You are acting contrary to the Holy Scriptures. You are acting opposite of what is directly commanded in multiple places in scripture.

Actions reflect beliefs. Beliefs contrary to scripture are heresy.

You do the math.

1,156 posted on 06/09/2007 6:11:56 PM PDT by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus CINO-RINO GRAZIE NO)
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To: markomalley

Please post the scriptures, thanks


1,157 posted on 06/09/2007 6:22:13 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings ("May all the saints preserve us." Mrs. Pickles)
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To: markomalley; 1000 silverlings; ears_to_hear; P-Marlowe; xzins; GoLightly; pjr12345
"Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?" -- Gal. 4:16

"And now, Lord, behold their threatenings: and grant unto thy servants, that with all boldness they may speak thy word,

By stretching forth thine hand to heal; and that signs and wonders may be done by the name of thy holy child Jesus.

And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness." -- Acts 4:29-31


1,158 posted on 06/09/2007 6:22:38 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: markomalley; Dr. Eckleburg
James 5:19

5:19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him; 5:20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

"1 Timothy 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

Luke 17:3 Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.

2 Timothy 4:2 2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

Titus 1:13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;

Titus 2:15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee."

If we don't warn someone in error to turn from evil, we are partly responsible. "Ezekiel 33:8 When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand."

"Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.; Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers;

1,159 posted on 06/09/2007 6:31:54 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings ("May all the saints preserve us." Mrs. Pickles)
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To: ears_to_hear

Looks like the vain repetitious spam has stopped.


1,160 posted on 06/09/2007 6:35:36 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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