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To: Quix

But there is one Catechism and one Bible.

People are free to think, to postulate, to argue and to adopt various positions, but there is one Magisterium to keep the Church on the right track.

As a matter of fact, what do you consider conflicting factions? And how did you come up with speculative numbers of 1/7 to 1/2? And how does the Church act differently than its written documents indicate that She should?


58 posted on 06/12/2007 3:51:37 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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To: MarkBsnr; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; wmfights; fortheDeclaration; Mad Dawg; DarthVader; All

Ahhhh, but history has proved that the magisterical has

NOT been a seamless homogeneous imprimateur for the RC edifice.

The magicsterical has ALSO changed over the centuries as have it’s pronouncements.

Perhaps not as much as say SOME changes within some Proty circles—but more than within others.

This notion that the magicsterical even existed prior to what—AD 300? 400?

and then that THAT body was seamlessly constituted until now with totally lock-step-think-alike-eccleastical robots

is more than laughable. It strains credulity as well as the historical record to smithereens—to powder.

I realize the fantasy is comforting to the faithful. Fantasies often are. But that one won’t wash.

The historical record is too clear.

In terms of the speculative numbers . . . I’m a sociologist as well . . . just imagine for yourself the number of RC congregations. Even the number of Bishops. Add in the various orders. And the sub groups within those orders.

THAT’S A LOT of diversity.

And I suggest you avoid trying to convince me that they were all kept mostly in line by the magicsterical. People are too diverse to be herded that way. Doesn’t work. Doesn’t wash.

Hitler’s outfit showed it and he reinforced it with death camps the whole of his regime. Mao’s China showed it and he killed 30,000,000 trying to enforce group think. It does NOT work that way.

Christ Himself will have to write it in our hearts before it will work. And He hasn’t done that, yet. It is scheduled. Evidently in our era.

As, I think, Mad Dawg has confirmed, RC’s are AT LEAST as contentious a RELIGIOUS lot as any group of Proties.


63 posted on 06/12/2007 4:11:14 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: MarkBsnr; All

And how does the Church act differently than its written documents indicate that She should?
= = =

I’m sure others could answer that better than I.

But a few things come to mind . . . .

1. LIBERATION THEOLOGY IN LATIN AMERICA.

2. ABORTION AND POLITICIANS in the USA and elsewhere with RC impunity.

3. ABORTION and RC member voting patterns in the USA and elsewhere.

4. Globalism and the culture of death a la Scuba Teddy et al.

All with VARYING degrees of ignoring, aiding and abetting, etc.

I’ve even occasionally heard of groups of nuns supporting abortion . . . evidently with impunity.

Now what was that again about this lock-step robot mentality administered by the magicsterical?

I haven’t seen it. Won’t see it this side of Heaven because it hasn’t existed; won’t exist; will not exist until Christ writes His law on our hearts.


64 posted on 06/12/2007 4:17:32 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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