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Because some churches don't know or teach them doesn't mean you must stay in the dark about the issue.

Hello again Ping.

I've been watching this thread with some interest. You and Diego are still clinging to your own 'Strong's theology' or 'Murray theology.' You and I have been over most of that so, I wont waste bandwidth with "vain disputes." This last quote of yours caught my eye, though. How do you know what churches are teaching? And how do you know that your information is absolutely correct?

I go to a church of fellow believers. I even visit other denominational churches from time to time, but I would never make such a bold statement as to claim to know what other Christian churches are or are not fully teaching. The fact that you and Diego don't go to church, makes that statement even harder to swallow.

On a side issue, I noticed earlier in this thread that a poster asked some questions about end times beliefs, but no one answered his/her questions on line. I think that's an example of missing the forest for the trees.

We are here to spread the good news of Jesus, but some of us (myself included at times) are so caught up in our own defense of our own theology that we miss the individual on the side asking for help. That is sad.

Personally, I think a few verses need to be looked at and thought about.

Gal 5:26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.

1Tim. 1:4-6 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: [so do].

Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and [of] a good conscience, and [of] faith unfeigned:

From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling (empty talk);

2Tim. 2:16 But shun profane [and] vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.

Titus 3:8-9 [This is] a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.

¶ But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

Sincerely

Hi Scubie, it's good to hear from you again.

How do you know what churches are teaching? And how do you know that your information is absolutely correct?

I don't know what all churches teach but I know many don't teach about the tribes if so many church goers aren't aware of it. I know I'm not "absolutely correct" but I do know the information about the tribes being separate is very true. It is throughout His word.

On a side issue, I noticed earlier in this thread that a poster asked some questions about end times beliefs, but no one answered his/her questions on line. I think that's an example of missing the forest for the trees.

I thought I answered all of the questions. As far as I know, there was only one I didn't answer because I didn't know what he meant (soul sleep) - I asked for clarification but never received an answer.

We are here to spread the good news of Jesus, but some of us (myself included at times) are so caught up in our own defense of our own theology that we miss the individual on the side asking for help. That is sad.

Yes, it is. Scubie, I try to stay away from theology and only discuss what is written, not what different religions say.

Gal 5:26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.

Do you think that describes what I have done? What glory do I seek, how have I provoked or who do I envy?

1Tim. 1:4-6 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: [so do].

The only genealogies I'm interested in are the ones God so carefully lays out for us to study.

2Tim. 2:16 But shun profane [and] vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.

Again, I only try to discuss His Word - Is that vain babblings?

Titus 3:8-9 [This is] a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.

Isn't it considered good works to share truth with others. I thought that was our purpose. The problem arises if others don't believe it is the truth.

.....Ping