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Latin Mass excites Catholic traditionalists in North Jersey
NorthJersey.com ^ | 07.16.07 | JOHN CHADWICK

Posted on 07/16/2007 5:46:00 PM PDT by Coleus

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To: maryz
I hope you're in a diocese with a bishop amenable to it. I'm not unfortunately, and I'm afraid for Boston it's going to be a long wait!


Why wait?

Mary Immaculate of Lourdes, Newton Upper Falls

St. Benedict, Still River

Complete listing of licit Traditional Latin Masses in the U.S. and Canada
21 posted on 07/17/2007 10:35:33 AM PDT by GOPmember
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To: GOPmember

I don’t have a car, and I checked the T route on its website — the trip would be an hour and a half each way (assuming everything runs on time), with a couple of changes and a 23-minute walk. (T’s estimate - probably takes longer if you don’t know where you’re going!) Also, there’s no guarantee the T would run at a good time to get there and to get back — say, likely two hours each way in practice. And I’m too old and tired for that!


22 posted on 07/17/2007 10:54:57 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Coleus; romanesq
Coleus I don't know where you got the listing of St. Antoninus in Newark, but I believe that is out of date.

The current TLM's in the Arch. of Newark are:

Holy Rosary Church in Jersey City (Sundays and Holy Days)
St. Anthony of Padua Chapel in West Orange (Daily)
Our Lady of Victories in Harrington Park (third Sunday of the month)
In addition to the possibility of St. John's in Orange offering the TLM, I know of two other parishes that are very likely to offer the TLM very soon.

romanesq, if you would like more information, please contact me via FReepmail.

23 posted on 07/17/2007 11:00:36 AM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: maryz

I should have said I checked the T schedule for Newton. I never even heard of Still River, never mind that there was a TLM there. I actually taught in Ayer my first year out of college and shared an apartment in Lowell. As I recall, the drive back to Boston from Lowell was over an hour. No idea what it would have been by public transportation.


24 posted on 07/17/2007 11:08:02 AM PDT by maryz
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To: maryz
Well, that makes sense. I had incorrectly inferred that you didn't think there were any Traditional Masses anywhere near Boston.

Hopefully your wait for a TLM closer to your home will prove to be shorter than you anticipate.

25 posted on 07/17/2007 11:16:50 AM PDT by GOPmember
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To: GOPmember

Newton is in the archdiocese of Boston, but not in the City of Boston. It’s a western suburb, and I’m on practically the eastern tip of the city. Our one indult used to be in the South End of Boston — about a half hour bus ride for me. Of course, the way the buses ran, I could be 20 minutes early or 10 minutes late, and then up to a half hour wait for the bus coming home. But I could go occasionally.


26 posted on 07/17/2007 11:45:54 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Coleus; Pyro7480; Siobhan; Canticle_of_Deborah; NYer; Salvation; sandyeggo; american colleen; ...
Seen on Fr. Z's blog:
---

Turn, Turn, Turn

Go to the altar (turn, turn, turn)
look to the East now, (turn, turn, turn)
there’s a time for every Mass now, if it’s valid.
The time for banjos and dancing is gone,
dust off the censer, and toss out the bong.
No need for hugging, we all get along
let’s keep our focus together, on Jesus.

Page through the Missal (turn, turn, turn)
remember the rubrics (turn, turn, turn)
there’s a time and a purpose for those words there
Pure, humble rev’rence is what we now lack,
just do the red words and say those in black.
When we say High Mass, there’s no need for crack,
just let your deacon and subdeacon guide you.

Now weed your library, (turn, turn, turn)
use some discernment (turn, turn, turn)
it is time now to brush up on your Latin.
Farewell to Vosko, McBrien, Hans Keung,
deep down you knew that they just peddled deung,
the 60’s are old and the Church is still young
what still subsists is a thing of great beauty.
---

27 posted on 07/17/2007 1:47:28 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Inroibo ad altare Dei)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Thanks for the post and the laugh
I like his blog
28 posted on 07/17/2007 2:02:40 PM PDT by Coleus (Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: Coleus

I had looked before but didn’t confirm one near me but that one in Jersey City isn’t far. Thank you for that.


29 posted on 07/18/2007 6:49:30 AM PDT by romanesq
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To: ELS

Thank you, it looks good in Jersey City and even shows on the Church website.


30 posted on 07/18/2007 6:50:40 AM PDT by romanesq
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To: romanesq
You're welcome.

and even shows on the Church website.

Yes, but there are a few inaccuracies (not in the Mass time) that the Latin Mass community is trying to have corrected.

31 posted on 07/18/2007 7:51:04 AM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; murphE; vox_freedom

This one would make a great parody and it wouldn’t take much rewriting.


The Times They Are A Changin’

by Bob Dylan

Come gather ‘round people
Wherever you roam
And admit that the waters
Around you have grown
And accept it that soon
You’ll be drenched to the bone.
If your time to you
Is worth savin’
Then you better start swimmin’
Or you’ll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin’.

Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won’t come again
And don’t speak too soon
For the wheel’s still in spin
And there’s no tellin’ who
That it’s namin’.
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin’.

Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don’t stand in the doorway
Don’t block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
There’s a battle outside
And it is ragin’.
It’ll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin’.

Come mothers and fathers
Throughout the land
And don’t criticize
What you can’t understand
Your sons and your daughters
Are beyond your command
Your old road is
Rapidly agin’.
Please get out of the new one
If you can’t lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin’.

The line it is drawn
The curse it is cast
The slow one now
Will later be fast
As the present now
Will later be past
The order is
Rapidly fadin’.
And the first one now
Will later be last
For the times they are a-changin’.


32 posted on 07/18/2007 2:14:02 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Catholic4Mitt)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah; reductio
This one would make a great parody and it wouldn’t take much rewriting.

Someone is being paged. =)

33 posted on 07/18/2007 8:41:09 PM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: murphE; reductio

It would be good on a YouTube video too.


34 posted on 07/18/2007 8:48:48 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Catholic4Mitt)
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To: maryz

“I hope you’re in a diocese with a bishop amenable to it. I’m not unfortunately, and I’m afraid for Boston it’s going to be a long wait!”

One of the major points of what the Pope said was that you don’t need the approval of the Bishop to request the TLM. Go to your local parish priest, to the church you go to, and request that a Latin Mass be said at your church. Get a petition going of like-minded people in your Parish. Advocate for it. That’s how you’ll get it right where you go to church. The Bishop’s approval is not necessary; the needs and wants of the parishioners is what counts here, at their request to their local churches and priests. Go for it!


35 posted on 07/19/2007 3:20:25 AM PDT by flaglady47 (Thinking out loud while grinding teeth in political frustration)
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To: flaglady47
I'll try -- but O'Malley is truly opposed to it, and I'm sure he can (and will) make things difficult for any priest who wants to do the TLM. Some of the bishops, you'll note, are looking into providing training for priests who want it. I still think a bad sign was that our lower church was "wreckovated" just in time for the motu proprio (which has been expected for about two years) -- got rid of the old traditional altar, ripped out the communion rail, and tore up the pews for wainscoting! I do feel pretty discouraged -- of course, the humidity here today is 94% and it's been high all week. Always depresses and enervates me. If the weather ever dries out, I should be more optimistic and energetic! :)

O'Malley's also bringint RENEW International into the diocese for the next three years -- I understand that though they've been reined in to orthodoxy, they are truly hostile to latinizing in any form.

36 posted on 07/19/2007 4:43:36 AM PDT by maryz
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To: maryz

“I’ll try — but O’Malley is truly opposed to it, and I’m sure he can (and will) make things difficult for any priest who wants to do the TLM.”

If the Bishop tries to obstruct a Parish that wants the TLM in their Church, the local priest and/or parishioners can appeal it higher up to the Vatican. The instructions for this is in the motu proprio. In other words, you can go around any Bishop who attempts to thwart the will of the people and priest of any Parish that wants the TLM. When you feel more cheery, read up on this, and check with your local priest.


37 posted on 07/19/2007 5:10:38 AM PDT by flaglady47 (Thinking out loud while grinding teeth in political frustration)
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To: flaglady47

Thanks for the encouragement — I’ll try to hope and work for the best! :)


38 posted on 07/19/2007 5:35:48 AM PDT by maryz
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To: meandog
Sad...who in the RC congregation under the age of 60 (perhaps you fit this) is going to understand the Latin liturgy.

I fit. I started to attend mass with my girlfriend in 1980 when I was 17. We were married in the Church in 1983. I did RICA and joined the Church in 1993. I've never heard a Latin mass. I'm interested in it, but I know nothing of it.

I do know that my wife and I have shopped different parishes to find one with an "upbeat" atmosphere. Our current parish has a Life Teen Mass that keeps the kids involved. We enjoy it, but some of the older members are sure it is inspired by the devil!

39 posted on 07/19/2007 5:36:31 AM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Can I cast the second stone?)
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