Andrew Greeley: Pope Benedict "deceives himself"

Ignatius Insight ^ | August 29, 2007 | Carl Olson

[NYer]

Ping!

[NYer]

This is a response to the article you posted earlier.

[A.A. Cunningham]

Greeley’s identity is that of a soft core pornographer who has a history of failing to keep his vows.

[ninenot]

The effect of a flea attempting to push an elephant.

That’s the sum total of Andy Greeley’s rhetoric.

[marshmallow]

“It is not within the pope’s power to establish a Catholic identity,” Greeley said. “He may think it is, but he deceives himself.”

Setting limits on the Pope's and by implication God's power is a defining trait of liberals, modernists and their fellow agnostics. The lack of any faith in the supernatural always makes itself evident.

Greeley's 79 years haven't taught him much.

[magisterium]

At Greeley’s age (79), eternity is starting to stare him in the face. He ought to be “preparing for a happy death,” rather than exacerbating his objectively uncomfortable stint under the klieg lights of his impending personal judgment. His comprehension of Pope Benedict’s motivations and goals is almost as bad as his novel writing ability.

[fortunecookie]

Because the power to establish "a Catholic identity" lies with (take your pick, dear Catholic consumer) theologians, USCCB staffers, the media, the Catholic media, the liberal Catholic media, the dissenting "Catholic" media, sociologists, and (I presume) Greeley himself. Anyone but the Pope.(bold emphasis mine)

Anyone but the Pope (and those who support him) rules here. In my diocese, it's the Bishop. First and foremost. He refers to our Holy Fathers Benedict and the late John Paul II as 'bishops of Rome', particularly when he disagrees with them. Rightly so, they are indeed Bishops of Rome. But...

There is a lot of attempts at deception, but it isn't coming from the Holy Father. Fr. Greeley needs a mirror.

[Tax-chick]

How sad to be so old but understand so little.

[SAMS]

Andrew Greely should have stopped calling himself a priest a long time ago.....

[starfish923]

The effect of a flea attempting to push an elephant.
That’s the sum total of Andy Greeley’s rhetoric.

For Greeley's rhetoric here in San Francisco we might say: "gnat droppings in pepper."

[NYer]

How sad to be so old but understand so little.

I assume you are referring to Fr. Greeley, right?

[NYer]

The effect of a flea attempting to push an elephant.

Wonderful analogy but he has the media in his hands.

[Barnacle]

Some people like to break stain glass windows from the inside out.

[Tax-chick]

Yes, sorry if I was garbled.

[Coleus]

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[baa39]

True, but if it weren’t for the mystique of him being a priest, he couldn’t sell those trashy novels or get columns in psuedo-religious/secular periodicals. No one would take him seriously if he were just another regular old disillusioned, carping lefty.

[the invisib1e hand]

“It is not within the pope’s power to establish a Catholic identity,” Greeley said. “He may think it is, but he deceives himself.”

the tougher they talk, they weaker they are.

[Scotswife]

Greeley’s just jealous that the Pope’s books pack alot more brainpower than his do.

[klossg]

“It is not within the pope’s power to establish a Catholic identity,” Greeley said. “He may think it is, but he deceives himself.”

Man, these words are a reflection of his soul and his goals. I don't think Greeley has ever been more clear and eventually in support of the truth than at that moment.