Skip to comments.Padre Pio and the Mother Co-redemptrix(CATHOLIC CAUCUS)
Posted on 09/10/2007 6:18:13 AM PDT by stfassisi
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This is very helpful and confirms my 'take' on the whole co-redemption thing. I think every Xtian is called to co-redeem in some way.
Here is a few more you might enjoy.
University of Dayton has a wonderful Mary page that is linked many Vatican Documents
I wish you a Blessed day!
This is a Catholic Caucus thread.
Please find an open thread and I am sure myself and others will be happy to help you.
I wish you a Blessed day!
Either post 8 (and 9) need to be removed or the thread must be opened for rebuttal. Which do you prefer?
Ok, that seems to be a bit ridiculous. A Caucus designation can be removed for now LINKING to something that is critical of another creed!?
And we just lost a Caucus thread because of such manuevers.
The earlier one that was locked because of “bad behavior”?
3. Closed threads on the Religion Forum include devotionals, prayer threads and caucuses. The header of the thread should make it obvious that the thread is closed, i.e. like a church meeting behind closed doors. Such assemblies will not be disturbed. Any challenges or ridicule will be removed. Any thread can be designated a caucus - e.g. labeled as a [Catholic Caucus] or [LDS Caucus] - provided that neither the article nor any of the posts challenge [*see footnote] or ridicule any other confession. These are safe harbors for those who are easily offended or are ill equipped to defend their own confession.
OK< my wrong interpretation.
So the interpretation is that a “post” can mean a link?? That’s absurd!
Just my opinion, have the RM remove 8, 9 and the last one and keep the caucus designation.
As I said, the caucus designation is now over. It just doesn’t know it yet. Wait until A Calvinist Caucus thread mentions Arminianism. I’ll be there.
Did you ever notice that caucuses are the shortest of threads?
Yeah, that was the one where some were permitted to come in and trash the thread, the first such posting at #3 while there was no known reference to anything challenging anything. Then others maintained that the title alone was so inflammatory that , in essence, no rules applied. Just believing what we believe and saying so is an offense to some.
Apparently so, given some of the posts I saw on that thread.
Well, we could make our own caucus rules and post them at the top of caucus threads.
When a Catholic/Orthodox caucus thread is posted and the RM refuses to honor it for any reason, we Catholics can refuse to engage the crashers. We can pretend that they aren’t there.
I can say from my view that I have not seen one of their posts which made a significant and valid point. Their posts might mislead other non-Catholics but they can’t touch my faith.
Sure I know what the first reaction is, but it is part of our ecclesiology to think that schools of thought which conflict advisedly and intentionally on matters which the Catholic Church considers de fide are by definition heretical.
Further, the term Protestant is so equivocal, that it's hard to see how to use it as the name of a "Faith" or a "confession". Do we mean merely those who disagree with the Catholic understanding of the role of the See of Peter or do we mean those who hold some variety of Calvinism, or what?
If the first, then the term is synonymous (for Catholics) with heretic -- just as Catholicism is considered a bundle of heresies by Protestants.
If you add to that holding a link to be equivalent to the post, then, as I say, the Caucus designation is toast.
I’m still interested in seeing a non-Catholic caucus that was immediately swarmed by Catholics.
For that matter, I would be interested in seeing ANY non-Catholic thread, OTHER THAN THOSE WITH INFLAMMATORY TITLES (i.e. “Proof that Peter wasn’t Pope”, which I know has never actually been a title, but you get the idea), that has been swarmed by Catholics.
Maybe I have blinders on, but I am not aware of Catholics on this forum seeking non-Catholic threads to attack the beliefs of Protestants.
The material on a link counts. For instance, if the website from which an article is posted includes links to Jack Chick material, it will be pulled.
Likewise, on the News Forum, if the link includes pornographic material, it will be pulled.
As to consistency in the application of Religion Forum guidelines, please be advised that I was on vacation last week. The Admin Moderators on duty used their best judgment in handling the notoriously hot thread.
Moreover, we have a policy of "stare decisis" - so that moderators do not disturb actions previously taken by other moderators.
For the record, unless the title includes a direct affront the caucus will not be broken on my watch. It would take something like "Protestants are heretics [Catholic Caucus]" to fail the test.
“... we Catholics can refuse to engage the crashers.”
We can try but I’m even being harrassed by FReepmail now by one of them.
See? A little touch-typing issue here.
Let me know the particulars by Freepmail - harassment via Freepmail is not allowed.
Not to be confrontational, but this isn't quite clear.
Let's say hypothetically, a Catholic write writes something and in it he mentions Jack Chick hating Catholics and has an illustration of one of Chick's publications, would that be considered a link?
Hope you had a great vacation!
I suspect I know which one.
I hope the record is adequately clear here: None of this involves referring to Mary as “Redemptrix.” Claims to the contrary are false.
I got a couple too. I just deleted them. They just wanted to get the last word in.
And yes, I had a great vacation! Thank you!
Why do you suppose it is that we rarely do caucuses?
I don’t know about you but when I read the caucus threads I learn alot. I love reading the responses and have learned from them too. I don’t often respond because most of the time I don’t have a lot to add.
That makes sense to a point. However, if a Catholic apologetic is writing something about religious bigotry and happens to mention the name, it would seem a little extreme to pull it.
Then again, you’re the one who makes the decisions.
Then take the second part of my post.
Yeah. That’s about where I am. Usually somebody said it all and better than I can.
It is a bit extreme - but at least for now, I have determined it is necessary to disallow certain material to maintain respect on open threads.
This is pretty common on threads related to Catholic topics. Comment #4 attacked us for a belief only tangentially related to what we in fact teach and scarcely related to the notion of co-redeemers or co-redemptrices.
That's why we have caucus threads. Those who disagree with us prefer disagreeing not with us but with their cleverly devised fables about what we believe. It's wearing.
Here's a few that come immediately to mind. And Gamecock posted a Protestant caucus on a pro-life topic, that I can't find the link to at this time.
Wow! Those are disgraceful. I’m embarrassed!
Geesh ,I left to go to Mass and the religion mod's around here remove links that help explain things in more detail!
Go figure! They will stop at nothing to discredit our Blessed Mother
If you’d prefer, I can restore the link and the posts following - but the thread will have to be opened for rebuttal. Or you can find similar materials which do not contrast beliefs between confessions.
And it's equally common on your side of the aisle, as well. I'll refrain from mentioning the name of the Catholic poster who posted them, but here's a sampling of earlier quotes, and the dates they were posted, from one of the Catholics on that Marian thread that was shut down over the weekend. Catholics are no more innocent of the religious flamewars here than Protestants are.
1/23: Brace thyself for the attacks of snake handlers, calvinists, "non-denoms" and others...
1/24: If you're upset that I called out the cults for what they are...sorry...but it's still an accurate depiction of the non-denoms, mormons, calvinists and other wacky cults.
2/5: Mormons...the cult that's become commonplace...so hard-up for membership that they have to resort to attempted spiritual kidnapping of the dead...
2/13: Fact is, John Calvin was an unintelligent, perverse fraud who founded a cult known as "calvinism." The Episcopal "Church" was started by an English king who could not get the Pope to accept the king's immoral ways. Luther was a disaffected, likely egomaniacal priest. Protestantism is a breakoff of mainstream Christianity that seeks to glorify the pastor more than the Lord. Presby's are some of the laziest "Christians" out there...as are all of their predestination cousins.
2/14: Would the calvinist cult members like some damnation with their heresy?
2/15: As for your post, you're also off base and reciting a continual lie of the snake handlers, calvinists and "pastor" worship folks at the Church of the Almighty Dollar.
2/21: Hey...I'm not surprised by anything the snake-handling crowd does. Their "churches" are simply shrines to the "pastors" - no theological foundation...
3/1: Why is this listed as a Catholic interest article? Why not Calvinists? They're the ones who practice the witchcraft.
3/2: You'll note that it's "Calvin" College. Again, I ask why are the activities at a cult center in the midwest relevant to Catholics?
3/4: I tell ya, this "reverend" ... is nothing more than an uneducated bumpkin. Wonder how much money he's skimming from the ship of fools attending his "church..."
3/4: You'd be stunned by how quickly these snake handlers degrade into profanity, anger and threats.
3/4: Again, a demonstration of a protestant being ignorant...
3/4: Let's have a little fun with that wackiest of prot sects, the Baptists
3/5: Being a protestant is in itself a demonstration of ignorance...
3/6: The pentacostals, "church of God" and others are simply inventions of men...designed to pump the ego and line the pockets of the "pastors." But continue donating...I'm sure your pastor is happy in his new Benz...
3/7: Martin Luther, being a relatively lazy type, deleted a good chunk of the Bible? A British king, attempting to justify his own heresy and immorality, heavily edited a version to suit his own twisted lifestyle?
3/7: Yes, if you're a born again, declared protty, then you're clear to do whatever you wish..."date" male hookers, cheat on your spouse, defraud donors of money intended for religious purposes...not that any protestant "ministers" did that or anything...
3/9: Perhaps things are different at your church - one of the, what, million protestant sects? However, the snake handling pentacostal calvinist wannabeatelevangelist "churches" here typically only use snippets.
3/14: Hell, most "Protestant" "churches" in my area are simply shrines to the ego (and pocketbook) of the "pastor."
3/28: Luther was a self-absorbed idiot...and his followers are fools...a complete bunch of utter fools.
3/28: Perhaps I'll just convert to that calvinist cult I've heard so much about.
3/31: That's the real origin of the Anglican church - born of sin and a king's ego,
I believe this thread is staying in the caucus state so I’ll wait for some other opportunity to discuss Marianism.