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To: Uncle Chip

>> It is the same “bread” that is referred to as “bread” or “loaves” of bread throughout the entire NT. It had the substance and accidents of “bread” and nothing but “bread” before and after consecration. <<

Naw, now you’re making stuff up. There’s no mention of substance or accidents; and there are plenty of references to the bread being other than mere grain. (”I am the bread of life...”, “This is my body...”, “Is not the bread we eat...”, etc.)


350 posted on 10/19/2007 12:58:13 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus
Naw, now you’re making stuff up. There’s no mention of substance or accidents; and there are plenty of references to the bread being other than mere grain.

Nope. The same Greek word that Paul uses for "bread" here is used for "bread" everywhere else in the NT. It is also the word used for those "loaves" of bread with which He fed the 5000. It was the same bread in all places.

I'm not making it up -- the Aristotelians in your church were the ones making it all up, creating a transubstantiation doctrine that had all the accidents of orthodoxy but lacking the substance thereof.

351 posted on 10/19/2007 1:14:41 PM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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