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Joel Osteen, from another thread, on other religions' need of Christ's atonement:

"Well, I don't know if I believe they're wrong."
How can you not know what you believe?
1 posted on 10/19/2007 9:32:34 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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Huh?


2 posted on 10/19/2007 9:37:24 AM PDT by restornu (No one is perfect but you can always strive to do the right thing! PRESS FOWARD MITT!)
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To: Alex Murphy

Maybe believing is just that, a belief and not actual knowledge of something. I think the 2 are different.


3 posted on 10/19/2007 9:40:07 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Alex Murphy

“Joel Osteen”

Didn’t his Dad used to pitch for the Dodgers?


4 posted on 10/19/2007 9:43:14 AM PDT by dakine
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To: Alex Murphy

What a putz and embarrassment JO is.
It is not really what LDS believes, he apparently does not know what he believes.


5 posted on 10/19/2007 9:55:28 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: Alex Murphy

I think Osteen was just “playing it safe”.
It’s hard to tell if he was following the Biblical advice to generally
try not to “give offense”.
Or he was just being “politically correct”, which of course is the
much less palatable explanation.

Folks, save the flames...I Do NOT carry water for the Mormon Church
or for Joel Osteen.


6 posted on 10/19/2007 9:55:34 AM PDT by VOA
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This is something that pisses me off quite a bit.

First, I agree that Osteen is “softer” than I’d like him to be.

However, he is stating that Mormons believe that Jesus Christ is their “personal savior”, correct?

Are Mormons not allowed to have faith in Christ as God’s son through which they gain atonement for their sins due to the fact that they’re Mormons?


8 posted on 10/19/2007 10:40:42 AM PDT by TheRiverNile
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To: Alex Murphy

An Osteen endorsement means nothing to the serious theologian.

Thank goodness!


9 posted on 10/19/2007 11:01:43 AM PDT by colorcountry (If the plain sense makes sense, seek no other sense, lest you get nonsense! ~ J. Vernon McGee)
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To: Alex Murphy
I believe I heard the new Presiding Bishop of The Episcopal Church being interviewed by Larry essentially saying the Muslims, Hindu’s, etc worship the same God and are heaven-bound. I can’t recall her exact words but the point made quite clearly was that she did not believe that Christ was the only way.

Is that the way all the mainstream denominations are headed?

11 posted on 10/19/2007 11:25:27 AM PDT by elpadre
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To: Alex Murphy

Smilin’ Joel.


14 posted on 10/19/2007 12:36:17 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Alex Murphy
How can you not know what you believe?

Ignorance, maybe?

16 posted on 10/20/2007 1:30:34 PM PDT by Celtman (It's never right to do wrong to do right.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Although I am Catholic so I don’t believe in Joel Osteen’s religon, I can say that if more people were like him it would be a much better place. It stuns me that he gets bashed so much. He is living a very God like life. Obviously if God did not want him to live the way he does, he would not have been given the gifts he has to run his religion. Is he going to Heaven? I have no idea and would not be arrogant enough to say one way or the other. I wish other FREEPERS would be the same.


20 posted on 10/21/2007 6:06:22 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Alex Murphy
“How can you not know what you believe?”

11 We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.

Maybe he believes in our 11th Article of Faith.

The whole lot is available here: http://scriptures.lds.org/en/a_of_f/1

Personally, I agree with my dad, who happens to be Roman Catholic. We all agree there was only one hill, with three crosses, two of which held thieves. HOW IN HECK do you fit so many other people on that one last cross?

Obviously, there are differences in doctrine between the many Christian churches, and those differences are based in differences in beliefs about the nature of God and his son. Far as I’m concerned, He’s led me where he wants me. If he wants you someplace else, who am I to tell you you’re wrong to be there? And when did He tell you to tell me I was wrong to be where he told me to go?

22 posted on 10/21/2007 10:48:25 AM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: Alex Murphy

If a person is involved in the post-modern relativism of the “emerging church movement” it would make sense. It’s a heretical cancer spreading throughout the church:

http://www.svchapel.org/Resources/Articles/read_articles.asp?ID=122

(Links to Part 2 and Part 3 at the bottom.)

Wake up sheeple!


25 posted on 10/21/2007 12:05:56 PM PDT by Abigail Adams
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To: Alex Murphy

I kinda like Joel Osteen, but he shouldn’t really call himself a preacher. He’s more like a financial and spiritual Tony Robbins. In case it’s unclear, I mean that in a good way.


28 posted on 10/21/2007 12:30:49 PM PDT by Petronski (Congratulations Tribe! AL Central Champs)
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***He even fesses up to it by saying he hadn’t “studied it carefully.***

Considering he didn’t attend seminary, I reckon there are quite a few doctrinal issues he hasn’t studied carefully.


34 posted on 12/23/2007 2:32:53 AM PST by Gamecock (Aaron had what every megachurch pastor craves: a huge crowd that gave freely and lively worship.)
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To: Alex Murphy

A psstor’s main job is to be a shepherd and protect the sheep...

Nuff said...


36 posted on 10/20/2011 6:29:12 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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