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Muslims Dance In A Catholic Church (Oh my eyes!)
Cathcon ^ | December 1, 2007 | Gillibrand

Posted on 12/05/2007 11:20:23 AM PST by NYer

from the ever wonderful kreuz.net

Recently dervishes have been whirling in the nave of a very well-known Viennese church. The parish priest saw it as an expression of hope and unity.

On Wednesday evening, Muslims were dancing in the Votive Church on the Vienna ring road. The Turkish Embassy publicised the event in a press release.

The spectacle is called the Mevlevi Sema ceremony.

The occasion was the 800th Birthday of the Persian-Islamic mystic Mevlana Celâleddin-i Rûmi († 1273). Rûmi is the founder of the Moorish Dervish Order.

Dervishes seek through asceticism, meditation and ritual dances to gain a pure soul.


The Vienna City Dean, the Right Revd Martin Rupprecht was enthusiastic about the event. The priest is committed to inter-religious dialogue. He also has studied for a year in Turkey.
(Draw your own conclusions, from the way he dresses about how commited he is to the priesthood and how committed to Muhammedism!)

For the Revd Rupprecht, it was "something very special", that he could welcome the Islamic group to his church. It was good to see that Muslims "experience spirituality" in a Catholic church.
This is for the priest is an expression of hope and unity.

The hypnotic-dance

The dancers were members of the Dervish Order especially invited from Turkey. Around 300 guests followed the presentation in the church.

The Turkish Ambassador to Vienna, Selim Yenel, gave the welcoming speech. He called the event "very special". He particularly praised "this environment".

Dervish founder, Rumi always preached tolerance of others. The word intolerance was not part of his vocabulary - according to the ambassador.

The symbolism of the dance.

The Dervishes dance in circular movements, that can last up to 45 minutes, in a trance. Each ceremony is led by a sheik.

At the beginning, the dervishes wear a red coat, which symbolizes "the centre of the earth".

They wear a red hat, like a tombstone and black capes, which are also connected to the memory of a grave.

During the prayer dance, the garments of the dervishes rise up.

They rotate in a circle, with the top right hand stretched up to receive the blessing of God.

The left points down to distribute the blessing received to the world.


Report ends

Extraordinary clothes and ritual dancing are not unknown in this Church.

The Parish Priest with a new mini-stealth priestess followed by dancers during the Long Night of the Churches.




TOPICS: Catholic; Ecumenism; Islam; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: austria; vienna

1 posted on 12/05/2007 11:20:25 AM PST by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

Round, like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel .... oy vey!


2 posted on 12/05/2007 11:21:17 AM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer

3 posted on 12/05/2007 11:23:49 AM PST by fishtank (Fenced BORDERS, English LANGUAGE, Patriotic CULTURE: A good plan.)
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To: NYer; AnAmericanMother

I have an entry here for the "Nasty Chasuble Contest".

4 posted on 12/05/2007 11:26:34 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: NYer

Lord help us.


5 posted on 12/05/2007 11:33:19 AM PST by AliVeritas (CNN: Pravda, only dumber.)
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To: AliVeritas

He can’t help us unless we are willing to help ourselves first. It is called Free Will.


6 posted on 12/05/2007 12:02:42 PM PST by 353FMG (Hillary - Al Qaeda's Dream Woman)
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To: NYer

A few over enthusiastic twirls, a few unsteady candles and we have a dream event. Not that I want anyone harmed but a few smoldering robes,skirts, pews just might get the point of God’s displeasure across.


7 posted on 12/05/2007 12:06:08 PM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: NYer
Q. Are we not men?

A. WE ARE D E V O!

8 posted on 12/05/2007 12:54:59 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: NYer
Recently dervishes have been whirling in the nave of a very well-known Viennese church. The parish priest saw it as an expression of hope and unity.

No, not an expression of hope and unity. Simply a man worshipping Tash.

9 posted on 12/05/2007 2:16:40 PM PST by stripes1776 ("I will not be persuaded that any good can come from Arabia" --Petrarca)
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To: B-Chan

Good grief. None of this should be happening. That said, the Sufis and “whirling dervishes” are considered heretical by orthodox Islam.


10 posted on 12/05/2007 2:59:34 PM PST by livius
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To: NYer
looks like St. Pat's.

Anyway, piss on islam.

11 posted on 12/05/2007 7:55:35 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (hillary clinton is vladimir putin in drag.)
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