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Unfortunately for Dr. Williams, however, the American Province of his Church is all TOO real! :-)
1 posted on 12/20/2007 4:55:04 PM PST by TaxachusettsMan
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Sure, all the little details that have arisen over the decades probably are fictitious but that doesn’t negate the fact he was born.
2 posted on 12/20/2007 5:04:42 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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If you do not believe the Bible, you are not a Christian. As Jesus says, “If you continue in My Word, then are you my disciples indeed. And you will know the truth and the truth will set you free.” (John 8:32)
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!” (Matthew 7:21-23)


3 posted on 12/20/2007 5:08:11 PM PST by kittymyrib
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Has the good archbishop ever looked into the Unitarians?

They would love him over there. He would fit in just fine.


5 posted on 12/20/2007 5:10:06 PM PST by Deo volente
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So is the validity of his claim to apostolic succession! Even apart from considering questions on this theme dating back to the 1500’s, it is clear that the Anglican episcopacy has had severe defects of “intention” for some time now. The current Arch-laic’s scorn-filled moniker as a “Druid” only underscores the point. This man is an abomination, an embarrassment to actually Christian Anglicans everywhere, and an apostate. His opinions on the Nativity of Christ, or any other Christian topic, are about as relevant to the Body of Christ as those of the Dalai Lama. Perhaps even less so, since the Dalai Lama demonstrates a working knowledge of authentic Christian principles, even if, like the AoC, he doesn’t actually believe in them!


6 posted on 12/20/2007 5:10:16 PM PST by magisterium
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He is free to start his own religion but he can’t call it Christianity. He probably denies the resurrection of the body.


7 posted on 12/20/2007 5:12:22 PM PST by golfisnr1 (Democrats are like roaches - hard to get rid of.)
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Rather than trusting the media, read the interview
8 posted on 12/20/2007 5:16:32 PM PST by GoLightly
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There may not have been asses in the stable but there sure is one in Canterbury.


9 posted on 12/20/2007 5:18:18 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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Archbishop of Canterbury Says Nativity "A Legend"

Perhaps he simply meant that it should be made into a movie starring Will Smith.

10 posted on 12/20/2007 5:28:16 PM PST by Dajjal
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and they were not homeless but traveling to sign up for the census/tax rolls


11 posted on 12/20/2007 5:48:41 PM PST by GeronL (Its not his Faith its his Faithfulness to conservativsm that bothers me)
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He argued that Christmas cards which showed the Virgin Mary cradling the baby Jesus, flanked by shepherds and wise men, were misleading.

He's certainly right there. Jesus may have been as old as two by the time the wise men came, and he certainly wasn't still at the manger. Matthew says they were in a house.

13 posted on 12/20/2007 6:18:38 PM PST by Sloth (Democrats and GOPers are to government what Jeffrey Dahmer and Michael Jackson are to babysitting)
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One can look through the writings of early Christians and not a single one of them considered the Virgin birth, the humble manger, or the Resurrection of Jesus Christ to be other than straight-forward truth.

It appears that Williams is a doctor of deceit.

He shouldn’t pretend that his mytholical take on the subject makes him a Christian. He’s a lost, lost man.


15 posted on 12/20/2007 7:19:47 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain! True Supporters of Our Troops Support the Necessity of their Sacrifice!)
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Everyone should really read the interview transcript. The title of this article is misleading.


16 posted on 12/20/2007 7:45:04 PM PST by Flo Nightengale (long-time lurker)
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And specially from every shires ende
Of Engelond, to Caunterbury they wende,
The hooly blisful martir for to seke
That hem hath holpen, whan that they were seeke.

Wouldn't Thomas Moore be proud.

17 posted on 12/20/2007 7:50:48 PM PST by bannie
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If you read the transcript, you'll note that Williams is being asked to compare the popular Christmas-card version of the nativity with the Biblical one. The only time the word legend comes up is in reference to the wise men. He states: Well Matthew's gospel doesn't tell us that there were three of them, doesn't tell us they were kings, doesn't tell us where they came from, it says they're astrologers, wise men, priests from somewhere outside the Roman Empire. That's all we're really told so, yes, 'the three kings with the one from Africa' - that's legend

In addition, Williams recently affirmed the Virgin birth in a survey also done by the Spectator. His answer, when asked if he believed in the Virgin birth was as follows: Yes; I believe that the conception of Jesus was a moment when the creative action of God produced a reality as new in its way as the first moment of creation itself. And I believe that what opened the way for this was the work of God through human history over centuries, coming to its fullest moment in Mary’s consent to God’s call. The recognition of the uniqueness and newness of Jesus is a recognition of the absolute freedom of God to break the chains of cause and effect that lock us into our sins and failures; the virginal conception is an outward sign of this divine freedom to make new beginnings.

It seems to me that a headline writer deliberately posted the provocative claim implying that Dr. Williams calls the entire Nativity a legend, when this is in fact NOT the case. Don't we know better than to trust that the papers will get things right? Let's criticize folks for what they actually DO say, and let's not be so quick to label someone non-Christian on the basis of a misleading headline.

18 posted on 12/20/2007 8:09:29 PM PST by Flo Nightengale (long-time lurker)
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his role is not to academically advise the world on these details, but to offer hope that springs forth from the gospel. What a shame that he’s blown a chance this holiday season to offer Christ, but instead has chosen to publicly quible over debatable matters. At least I know where his heart is.


20 posted on 12/21/2007 6:07:42 AM PST by bethelgrad (Combat Chaps)
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