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1 posted on 12/28/2007 9:19:43 AM PST by Huber
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Intrinsically EVIL?


I refer you to the thread above :

2 posted on 12/28/2007 9:36:14 AM PST by BigEdLB (BigEd)
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To: Huber

Very interesting.


3 posted on 12/28/2007 9:56:37 AM PST by Tax-chick ("The keys to life are running and reading." ~ Will Smith)
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It`s interesting, indeed.

Some thoughts:

it seems to me that the concept of a “disorder of will” and the concept of “unnatural acts” look very similar. Both postulate a deviation from a “normality” which looks quite ordered randomly. If one says that an (sexual) act is “unnatural” he must be able to explain why driving a car should not be unnatural - after all there grow no cars in nature... and so the clean “unnaturalness” of an act can not be a premise of evilness.

So what could be such a premise? Causing damage, I suggest. If one voluntary causes damage and has not the intention to avoid a bigger damage while doing (for example: to hustle someone on the street so he gets injured seems to be an act of causing damage, but what if should save the “victim” from being knocked down by a truck?) I might call this “intrinsically evil”. But from this point of view even the abdication of contraception could be evil: imagine a really poor family with a lot of kids. Every added kid would make the situation worse. So, if the parents want to give their kids at least a half way lucky life, they renounce yet another baby. Trads would say “oh, no problem, you must simply renounce sex too”, but we all know this is not realistic, isn`t it? So in this situation contraception will be good and no contraception will be bad, for the latter causes damage...

One word to your Hiroshima-example: some people say that the bomb was good because without it there would have been many more victims. I dunno if this is right (and just as well how such results are generated), but: most of the Hirsohsima victims were civilians - in a conventional war could be less civilians and mostly soldiers, and thats a disparity I think soldiers must assume to be killed in a war rather than civilians.

thx for the food for thought!


4 posted on 12/28/2007 12:52:19 PM PST by xconroy
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FYI


8 posted on 12/28/2007 2:29:49 PM PST by Huber (And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. - John 1:5)
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John Paul the Great was one of them. Let us learn from him.

Santo Subito!

11 posted on 12/28/2007 3:45:10 PM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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bump for later


17 posted on 12/28/2007 5:02:02 PM PST by LordBridey
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“I have found it a real challenge to get across to people what is
meant by saying that some acts are “intrinsically evil.””

He should have had them watch “Most Evil” on The Discovery Channel.
Anyone doubting “evil” after watching that show is either evil or decorticated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_Evil


24 posted on 12/28/2007 6:37:17 PM PST by VOA
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I’d suggest reading the Word of God on the matter.

It’s very consistent and understandable.


48 posted on 12/28/2007 8:26:05 PM PST by unspun (God save us from egos -- especially our own.)
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76 posted on 12/29/2007 5:11:09 AM PST by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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Marking


107 posted on 12/29/2007 11:26:05 PM PST by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words:"It's too late"))
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