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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
A primer on the Holy Eucharist and how, according to the Bible, the host and wine are transformed into the Body and Blood of our Lord and God, Jesus Christ.
2 posted on 02/20/2008 4:51:14 PM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer

Any particular place you want me to begin with, or do you want me to just jump in with both feet?


3 posted on 02/20/2008 4:54:30 PM PST by Ottofire (But as for me, I will watch expectantly for the LORD; I will wait for the God of my salvation)
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To: NYer; Ottofire; Dr. Eckleburg
...and how, according to the Bible, the host and wine are transformed into the Body and Blood of our Lord and God, Jesus Christ

Ah, but if it is transformed, why then does Jesus tell us that it would turn back into wine again in the new age? Or are you saying that Jesus intends to drink His own blood at His Second Coming?

Then He took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you. For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father’s kingdom."
- Matthew 26:27-29
Dr Eckleburg, I believe you have an appropriate link/article for the Catholics to read...
4 posted on 02/20/2008 4:58:53 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("Therefore the prudent keep silent at that time, for it is an evil time." - Amos 5:13)
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To: NYer

Masterful.

The priest turns from the altar and presents the Host and Chalice to the kneeling faithful of the parish. “Behold the Lamb of God; behold He Who taketh away the sins of the world, “ he intones. “Happy are those who art called to His supper.”

In his frail hands, the priest holds aloft the Body and Blood of God Himself.


5 posted on 02/20/2008 4:59:47 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: NYer

Blasphemous garbage - please don’t ping me to nonsense like this again.

Thank you


7 posted on 02/20/2008 5:02:44 PM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("Never get involved in a land war in Asia.")
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To: NYer

Thanks for the info. I pretty much knew this was the Catholic take on those scriptures, but this is a good summary of why Catholics believe what they do about the Eucharist.


29 posted on 02/21/2008 6:18:23 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: NYer; papertyger
A primer on the Holy Eucharist and how, according to the Bible, the host and wine are transformed into the Body and Blood of our Lord and God, Jesus Christ.

But I thought the Bible was full of errors and contradictions, NYer. After all, it says the universe was created in six days less than six thousand years ago. For that matter, so did your church fathers, though I notice you choose to reject them on this. So why not reject their teaching on the "eucharist" as well?

46 posted on 02/21/2008 7:34:28 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (HaShem, HaShem, Qel Rachum veChanun; 'erekh 'appayim verav-chesed ve'emet!)
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Excellent article. Thanks for posting.

I'm sure the thread is worse than my septic tank.

183 posted on 02/21/2008 12:58:48 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: NYer
In the previous chapter the apostle wrote, "The blessing-cup that we bless is a communion with the blood of Christ, and the bread that we break is communion with the body of Christ" (1 Cor. 11:16). His words are clear. The only possible meaning is that the bread and wine at the consecration become Christ's actual body and blood.

This is rather a stretch of interpretation. First the author used the wrong reference; it should be 1 Cor. 10:16, not 11:16. Forgiving the possibility of an understandable typo, I would point to 1 Cor. 10:17 as well:

The text doesn't say that the bread and wine turns into the actual blood and body of Christ. Instead it states that we ARE one bread and one body.
269 posted on 02/22/2008 7:38:04 AM PST by HarleyD
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