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Where do I think the Israelites are today?

A ludicrous question.

The Bible says clearly, they will be regathered in the land God gave them. Israel!

And look... there they are.

Are there “some” who aren’t? Sure, always happens that way. Not all Africans are in Africa. Not all Americans are in America. Big whooop. You can’t invent doctrine when the Bible is explicit.

This theory of who the Jews are and where the Jews are was MADE UP because people at the time couldn’t imagine any possible chain of events which would CAUSE the Jews to go back to Palestine, occupy the land physically and then remake their nation.

DOH!

But they did.

Now any other talk.

ANY, whatsoever... about “Who is X % Jewish or descended from whom.. is not about GOD’S MIRACLE of restoring His people, but is INSTEAD a debate about genes, and linage... which IS RACE!

Ya follow that?

It is IMPOSSIBLE to have any belief about LOST TRIBES without considering RACE as the factor.

Thus the entire debate is racIST.

Just on the face of it. DEFACTO!

So there are TWO and ONLY two choices here:

#1 God is clear and exact and reveals Himself plainly and He means what He says and He just DOES it. Simple.

#2 God is cryptic, unclear, sneaky and man must try and game the system with science and genetics and all sorts of extra biblical thinking to come up with ways to make God’s prophesy happen.

Now... one of those is MY GOD... the other must be YOURS.

The god of Mystery is the god of Babylon. My God is not that way. My God is the revealer of mystery and speaks in simple father-daughter language and doesn’t have to resort to legal trickery to make a miracle happen.

They just happen in plain sight and are completely obvious for all.

Why? Cause He is UNWILLING that ANY should perish but that ALL should come to repentance and be saved.

Preach any other gospel... especially when it comes to who the Jews are and what his works are for them after the age of the gentiles... and yer WAY WAY WAY PAST CULTISM and boldly pushing EVIL.

Have I made my point yet?

The difference between this Britain and America being the Lost Jews and out right Anti-Semitic Jew Hate is the difference between HOW MUCH Rat Poison is in your breakfast cereal.

Where do I think the Israelites are today? A ludicrous question.

This is what we are about to see. Is it really Ludicrous or is your prejudice showing?

The Bible says clearly, they will be regathered in the land God gave them. Israel! And look... there they are.

This is what scripture says: [Ezekiel 37:19] Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand. The first 18 Chapters speak of this as happening during a general resurrection.....so we know it is yet in the future.

Most of the folks who reside in Israel today are descendants of three tribes.....Judah, Benjamin and Levi. You'll find that scripture also confirms this descendency in [1 Kings 12:23]. By the time of the Assyrian deportation of Israel [II Kings 17:18] Benjamin was also considered part of Judah....the Southern Kingdom. In addition [II Chronicles 11:13-17] tells us that all the Levites left Israel and came to Judah when they were rejected as priests by Jereboam. Along with them came other Israelites from all the other tribes but the preponderant majority of these Israelites remained in the north and were exiled to Assyria in 721 B.C. [II Kings 17:22-23]. If you read the scripture you'll see that they are still there.... and this scripture was written after the return from Babylon by the Nation of Judah (Southern Kingdom) more than 200 years later. There are no subsequent scriptures that tell of the return of Israel (Northern Kingdom) from exile.

We can see that two specific nations were formed from one. This was done because of the sins of Solomon....David's son [I Kings 11:11-13]. The Northern Kingdom kept the name Israel and the Southern Kingdom used the name Judah.....as that was the name of the primary tribe. From this point onward when the Bible speaks of Jews it is referring to descendants of the three tribes who made up the Southern Kingdom.....Judah, Benjamin and Levi. In fact, the first place in scripture you'll see the word Jew in use is in {II Kings 16:6] At that time Rezin king of Syria recovered Elath to Syria, and drave the Jews from Elath: and the Syrians came to Elath, and dwelt there unto this day. The fifth verse will tell you that the Jews were at war against Israel. This in itself tells us now that when we see the Jews in prophecy we should not necessarily assume the prophecy is about Israel.....and vice versa.

Now....I'm going to stop at this point as I have noticed what I call "Chiponshoulderitis" on your part....and consequently, I'm not sure if you are really interested in learning these things.....or not. If you would like to learn these Biblical truths then please....by all means, let me know, I will be delighted to continue.

I will leave you one thought as I have noticed what I think is a basic misunderstanding on your part. All Jews are Israelites.....not all Israelites are Jews. When folks come to that understanding many scriptures begin to make more sense.

Hoping I will hear back from you soon...........

ANY, whatsoever... about “Who is X % Jewish or descended from whom.. is not about GOD’S MIRACLE of restoring His people, but is INSTEAD a debate about genes, and linage... which IS RACE! Ya follow that? It is IMPOSSIBLE to have any belief about LOST TRIBES without considering RACE as the factor. Thus the entire debate is racIST. Just on the face of it. DEFACTO!

Reading some of your posts, it's apparent you don't really understand this doctrine.

1. Up until the new covenant any blessings or promises given by God to Israel were only applicable to physical Israelites. However, everyone understands that under the new covenant gentiles have been "grafted" into Israel:

Eph 2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
Eph 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

Gentiles, before Christ, were without hope. Strangers from God's promises. Now one DOES NOT have to be a racial Israelite to partake in God's promises. Black, white, red, green, blue...it doesn't matter. All who hold to Christ are subject to God's promises.

2. There WERE physical blessings promised to Israel. When God makes promises, he WILL honor them. He cannot lie. But these physical blessings ALSO apply to racial Israelites who just by virtue of their relationship to Abraham take part in them. Some may be horrible people, but God made promises to Abraham that MUST be fulfilled.

3. Mathematics seem to dictate that there would now be a VAST number of Israelites descended from Abraham. Many many more than simply the ones who identify themselves as "Jews" today. Diego has done an admirable job of pointing out that the bible makes it very clear that there is a difference between the tribe of Judah (Jews) and the other tribes. We KNOW that these other tribes were apart from Jews in biblical times.

4. The United States, Great Britain and many other nations have, throughout most of their history, been Christian. The United States and Great Britain seem to have fulfilled many of the physical promises given by God to Israel. I find it very likely that the vast majority of people who comprise the United States are descendants of Abraham. And I'm not talking about just whites. There's been so much interbreeding that a black can be more of a physical Israelite than some white appearing person maybe. But that doesn't even really matter because as pointed out a non-Christian that is white, black, red, green or blue may be benefactors of the physical blessings, but still be strangers from the promise of eternal life which is only given through Christ.

For more information about physical promises see God's Commitment to Abraham and his Descendents

Good luck and God bless in your studies.