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To: DouglasKC
The return of Christ and the establishment of his kingdom IS good news indeed and it doesn't get much better than that.

Christ has never left us

and His kingdom was established long ago.

He reigns and sits upon the throne of David and we have been translated into that kingdom.
94 posted on 02/24/2008 1:44:03 AM PST by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD
Christ has never left us Joh 14:18-19 I will not leave you orphans. I will come to you. Yet a little while and the world does not see Me any more. But you see Me. Because I live, you shall live also. Heb 13:5 Let your way of life be without the love of money, and be content with such things as you have, for He has said, "Not at all will I leave you, not at all will I forsake you, never!"

Thanks for your response Harley. I think you're mixing up Christ's spiritual presence with his physical return.

Joh 16:4 But these things have I told you, that when the time shall come, ye may remember that I told you of them. And these things I said not unto you at the beginning, because I was with you.
Joh 16:5 But now I go my way to him that sent me; and none of you asketh me, Whither goest thou?
Joh 16:6 But because I have said these things unto you, sorrow hath filled your heart.
Joh 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

So Christ departed and made it possible for his holy spirit to come to those who believed in him.

But he has not physically returned. A sequence of the events of his return are listed in Matthew 24.

and His kingdom was established long ago. Mat 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach and to say, Repent! For the kingdom of Heaven is at hand.

The bible teaches that Christ will physically return to establish an earthly kingdom. Although Christ has ascended and taken his place on the right hand of the father, it is not yet in God's timetable to establish his physical kingdom on earth. The kingdoms and governments of the world today are, with God's authority, under the influence and power of Satan.

Joh 14:28 "You heard that I said to you, 'I go away, and I will come to you.' If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced because I go to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.
Joh 14:29 "Now I have told you before it happens, so that when it happens, you may believe.
Joh 14:30 I will not speak much more with you, for the ruler of the world is coming, and he has nothing in Me;
Joh 14:31 but so that the world may know that I love the Father, I do exactly as the Father commanded Me. Get up, let us go from here.

The "ruler of the world" Christ is referring to is Satan:

Gal 1:3 Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,
Gal 1:4 Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:

The present world is evil because it is under Satan's reign.

Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

The "course of the world" is under Satan's influence.

Mat 12:25 And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:
Mat 12:26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?

Above when Christ was accused of casting out demons under Satan's influence he acknowledges that Satan's kingdom would fall if it was divided. He acknowledged Satan's kingdom.

Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Satan deceives the whole world. That doesn't just mean people. Science teaches evolution. Science is deceived. Governments are deceived. Religion is deceived. Christ will return to stop this deception of the WHOLE world one day.

Col 1:13 For He has delivered us from the power of darkness and has translated us into the kingdom of His dear Son; He reigns and sits upon the throne of David and we have been translated into that kingdom.

The verse above simply means that Christians have acknowledged that Christ is our ruler and we are no longer under Satan's authority, but Christ's. We are His.

95 posted on 02/24/2008 8:30:21 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: HarleyD

As though, Dear Harley, there were not a lot of other Scriptures on the other side of the issue! LOL.


98 posted on 02/24/2008 9:12:16 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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