Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Recycle or go to Hell, warns Vatican
telegraph.co.uk ^ | 12:01am GMT 10/03/2008 | Malcolm Moore

Posted on 03/10/2008 7:28:26 PM PDT by DaveTesla

Failing to recycle plastic bags could find you spending
eternity in Hell, the Vatican said after drawing up a
list of seven deadly sins for our times.

Your view: What are the 'deadly sins' of our time?
Vatican sex guide urges Catholics to do 'it' more often
Climate change 'will spark global conflict'
The seven, which include polluting the environment, were
announced by Monsignor Gianfranco Girotti, a close ally
of the Pope and the head of the Apostolic Penitentiary,
one of the Roman Curia's main court.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Ecumenism; Humor; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS:
Lol lolololooooooo......

Has the Vatican and the Goracle merged?

1 posted on 03/10/2008 7:28:27 PM PDT by DaveTesla
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: DaveTesla

I wish the Vatican and the Patriarchate and all the other officialdoms of the Christian faith would just concentrate on the Holy Bible... and the Word...and leave the quasi-scientific mumbo jumbo and secular PC to the Gore-ons and that ilk.


2 posted on 03/10/2008 7:33:40 PM PDT by eleni121 (Solzhenitsyn on the bombing of Serbia: "no difference whatsoever between NATO and the Nazis")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DaveTesla
Darn, I thought they went Buddhism - soul recycling.
3 posted on 03/10/2008 7:34:27 PM PDT by alecqss
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DaveTesla

Willing to wager this is nothing but a MSM hit piece.


4 posted on 03/10/2008 7:35:12 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DaveTesla
More here:

Sins of emission?

5 posted on 03/10/2008 7:36:04 PM PDT by jdm (Contrary to popular belief, the search function works just fine.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DaveTesla
"Failing to recycle plastic bags could find you spending eternity in Hell"

BS. Never said by anyone.

"the Vatican said"

No, they didn't.

"after drawing up a list of seven deadly sins for our times."

One monseigneur close to the Pope said to some newspaper that polluting the environment is one of many possible sins.

6 posted on 03/10/2008 7:36:27 PM PDT by icwhatudo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DaveTesla

Sometimes this Pope says something really deep and brilliant...this however it not one of those times.


7 posted on 03/10/2008 7:37:54 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule (John Conyers should stop smoking crack.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: eleni121
The new age religion.

Save the planet,
forget about the soul.

Save the planet,
Kill yourself.

Pretty sick.

No wonder they hate Christians.

8 posted on 03/10/2008 7:39:28 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: icwhatudo
I'd be willing to wager the Vatican said nothing of the sort.
9 posted on 03/10/2008 7:41:21 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: DaveTesla


But seriously, I agree with icwhatudo.
10 posted on 03/10/2008 7:44:06 PM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Comment #11 Removed by Moderator

Comment #12 Removed by Moderator

To: DaveTesla

Sinning isn’t as much fun as it used to be.


13 posted on 03/10/2008 7:49:31 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Never say yer sorry, mister. It's a sign of weakness)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DaveTesla

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1983647/posts

As per usual, the MSM does a hatchet job.


14 posted on 03/10/2008 7:51:09 PM PDT by visualops (artlife.us nature wallpapers)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: sandyeggo
I did run a search but did not find anything.

The church must being something right for the lying
MSM to attack them.

Forgive me FR. I posted and did not search.... :< )
Lol...

15 posted on 03/10/2008 7:55:40 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: DaveTesla
It appears that even the Pope believes government can control the earth's temperature and weather.

Wow, so glad some of us escaped this global warming virus, I am immune I guess. Maybe you get it when you view Gore's movie?

16 posted on 03/10/2008 7:56:34 PM PDT by roses of sharon (Who will be McCain's maverick?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: roses of sharon

See link above in post #14.


17 posted on 03/10/2008 8:28:18 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: DaveTesla

Wow, and some Freepers think Mormonism is off base.


18 posted on 03/10/2008 8:33:16 PM PDT by Edit35
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Pyro7480
Yes, thanks I have read most of what he has said for the last months on “global warming”. He has been speaking about it often.

This is one from Sept.

Take Climate Change Seriously, says Pope
Pope Benedict on Wednesday made another strong appeal for the protection of the environment, saying issues such as climate change had become gravely important for the entire human race.
Posted: Wednesday, September 5, 2007, 17:02 (BST)Font Scale:A A A

Pope Benedict on Wednesday made another strong appeal for the protection of the environment, saying issues such as climate change had become gravely important for the entire human race.

The Pope made his appeal, his second on environmental issues in four days, at the end of his general audience before some 16,000 people in St Peter's Square.

“Care of water resources and attention to climate change are matters of grave importance for the entire human family,” he said.

“Encouraged by the growing recognition of the need to preserve the environment, I invite all of you to join me in praying and working for greater respect for the wonders of God's creation,” he told his listeners, speaking in English.

The Pope gave his backing to a symposium called “The Arctic: Mirror of Life,” on religion, science and the environment, due to start in Greenland on Thursday and be attended by scientists and religious leaders.

Earlier this month, scientists said previously unknown islands were appearing as Arctic summer sea ice shrinks to record lows, raising questions about whether global warming was outpacing U.N. projections.

Benedict and other world religious leaders have been banging the environmental drum more loudly recently.

Last Sunday in central Italy, Benedict led the Catholic Church's first ‘eco-friendly’ youth rally and told up to half a million people that world leaders must make courageous decisions to save the planet “before it is too late”.

Under Benedict and his predecessor John Paul, the Vatican has become progressively “green”.

It has installed photovoltaic cells on buildings to produce electricity and hosted a scientific conference to discuss the ramifications of global warming and climate change, widely blamed on human use of fossil fuels.

Last month Benedict said the human race must listen to “the voice of the Earth” or risk destroying its very existence.

19 posted on 03/10/2008 8:38:10 PM PDT by roses of sharon (Who will be McCain's maverick?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: roses of sharon

LOL! Another MSM story.


20 posted on 03/10/2008 8:40:02 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Pyro7480

So his quotes in this speech have been denied as fake?


21 posted on 03/10/2008 8:48:59 PM PDT by roses of sharon (Who will be McCain's maverick?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: DaveTesla

I don’t recycle because the liberal fascists want me to do it; I continue to smoke because the liberal fascists don’t want me to do it; I stay up all night thinking of ways to increase my carbon footprint to spite Algore. Now I find that my Church may consider these as sins. Let’s see, hell or the liberal fascist paradise? Tough choice, but I guess I choose hell.


22 posted on 03/10/2008 8:53:21 PM PDT by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: roses of sharon

Respect for God’s Creation is important. It can obviously be taken too far (Al Gore), but the Pope’s comments have been pretty even-handed. As for the premise of the excerpt, that is just plain lazy inaccurate journalism.


23 posted on 03/10/2008 9:03:14 PM PDT by StAthanasiustheGreat (Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

Comment #24 Removed by Moderator

To: StAthanasiustheGreat
He has been promoting the climate change meme, obviously, (as many/most of our leaders have been pressured to do), and gave his approval for a UN mission to the Artic for Religious leaders. (in writing) He has been mislead, as many have.

Missions
Religious Leaders Unite in Prayer on Climate Change
Religious leaders united in a silent “prayer for the planet” alongside a retreating Greenland glacier on Friday as part of a widening spiritual drive to combat climate change.
Posted: Friday, September 7, 2007, 21:51 From “Christian Today”

Religious leaders united in a silent “prayer for the planet” alongside a retreating Greenland glacier on Friday as part of a widening spiritual drive to combat climate change.

“In our small world we all need to struggle together,” said Sofie Petersen, the bishop of Greenland, of the meeting of Muslims, Jews, Buddhists and Christians aboard a cruise ship amid icebergs near Illulisat on the west coast.

Organisers said the prayer was to express common concern but stopping short of asking God to reverse the thaw. Such a request might have invited comparisons with the legendary vain attempt by 11th century English King Canute to stop the rising tide.

Patriarch Bartholomew, spiritual head of the world's Orthodox Christians, led a two-minute silent prayer aboard the cruise ship in the iceberg-clogged fjord during a symposium he is leading called “The Arctic: Mirror of Life”.

Arctic ice has shrunk this year to the smallest on record and almost all experts say that greenhouse gases from human use of fossil fuels are behind a thaw of recent decades. Warming may also bring rising seas, floods, erosion and desertification.

“We have duties towards our fellow men, but also duties to the whole of creation,” said Rene-Samuel Sirat, a former chief Rabbi of France who was among about 200 participants.

“This prayer is a recognition that we have spoiled the earth and we now need to rectify this by changing our lifestyles,” said Musharraf Hussein, a British Muslim leader. “We seek the help of our creator to acquire the strength and ability to make the necessary changes.”

POPAL APPROVAL

Pope Benedict gave his backing to the Greenland symposium on Wednesday in a new appeal for protection of the environment, saying issues such as climate change had become gravely important for the entire human race.

During the prayer, which ended with singing by an Inuit choir, the loudest sound was the lapping of water on icebergs in the fjord, participants said.

The North Atlantic island of Greenland has enough ice to raise world sea levels by about 7 metres (23 ft) if it all melted in coming millennia, swamping small island states and vast stretches of coast from Bangaldesh to Florida.

Scientists attending the symposium will also explain research into the melt, which is putting pressure on indigenous hunting cultures and wildlife such as polar bears and seals.

“It's remarkable how little ice there is now compared to when I was here a couple of years ago,” said Grete Hovelsrud, of the Centre for International Climate and Environmental Research in Oslo. “The rate of change has accelerated a lot and people are wondering ‘what is going on?’

“This event sends the message that climate change is upon us and we are all responsible,” said Aqqaluk Lynge, the head of Greenland's Inuit population. “We must stop harming creation. At this point Inuit philosophy meets all other religions.”

25 posted on 03/10/2008 9:13:21 PM PDT by roses of sharon (Who will be McCain's maverick?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: DaveTesla

Setting the record straight:

http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=57130


26 posted on 03/10/2008 9:22:27 PM PDT by baa39 (Defend our troops! see my profile page)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DaveTesla; All

Yes, you’re correct. Here’s a much more accurate article:

http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=57130


27 posted on 03/10/2008 9:24:06 PM PDT by baa39 (Defend our troops! see my profile page)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: roses of sharon

What is not included there was a quote from the Pope from that VERY SAME talk where he said that despite our responsibility for stewardship of the earth, plants and animals must not be made more important than human beings.


28 posted on 03/10/2008 9:26:51 PM PDT by baa39 (Defend our troops! see my profile page)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: DaveTesla

I’ve always found regeneration by Him is preferable to recycling by us.


29 posted on 03/10/2008 9:36:34 PM PDT by Cvengr (Fear sees the problem emotion never solves. Faith sees & accepts the solution, problem solved.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: baa39

http://www.zenit.org/article-21189?l=english

NEW YORK, FEB. 14, 2008 (Zenit.org).- Benedict XVI’s personal commitment to safeguarding the planet, shown in part by his numerous public appeals, has inspired a change in lifestyles in favor of the environment, the Holy See noted.

Archbishop Celestino Migliore, permanent observer of the Holy See to the United Nations, affirmed this Wednesday during the 62nd session of the U.N. General Assembly titled “Addressing Climate Change: The United Nations and the World at Work.”

“The ongoing debate on climate change has helped put into focus the inescapable responsibility of one and all to care for the environment, thereby building consensus around the common objective of promoting a healthy environment for present and future generations,” he noted.

In this effort, he affirmed, “the Holy See assures of its collaboration.”

In particular, Archbishop Migliore noted the work done personally by the Holy Father.

“The personal commitment and numerous public appeals of Pope Benedict XVI have generated awareness campaigns for a renewed sense of respect for and the need to safeguard God’s creation,” he stated. “Individuals and communities have started to change their lifestyles, aware that personal and collective behavior impacts climate and the overall health of the environment.

“While such lifestyle changes at times may seem irrelevant, every small initiative to reduce or offset one’s carbon footprint, be it the avoidance of the unnecessary use of transport or the daily effort to reduce energy consumption, contributes to mitigating environmental decay and concretely shows commitment to environmental care.”

The prelate also noted the Holy See’s practical steps to participate in safeguarding the environment. He mentioned the solar panels scheduled to be installed at Vatican City State. One project will be finished this year and will provide all the energy needed for Paul VI hall. Surplus will be used at other locations.

And the archbishop noted participation in a tree planting project in Hungary, which will “will provide environmental benefits to the host country, assist in the recovery of an environmentally degraded tract of land, and provide local jobs.”

Archbishop Migliore highlighted the shared responsibility of individuals and nations in protecting the planet.

“It is incumbent upon every individual and nation to seriously assume one’s share of the responsibility to find and implement the most balanced approach possible to this challenge,” he said. “Sustainable development provides the key to a strategy that harmoniously takes into account the demands of environmental preservation, climate change, economic development and basic human needs.”

Clean and green

The Holy See representative encouraged the use of “clean technologies,” saying they are an “important component of sustainable development.”

And he recommended that developing countries be helped to learn from the mistakes made by their highly-industrialized counterparts.

“The pooling of resources makes initiatives of mitigation and adaptation economically accessible to most, thus assisting those less equipped to pursue development while safeguarding the environment,” he said.

Archbishop Migliore further urged that markets patronize “green economies” and not to “sustain demand for goods whose very production causes environmental degradation.”

“Consumers must be aware that their consumption patterns have direct impact on the health of the environment,” he stated. “Thus through interdependence, solidarity and accountability, individuals and nations together will be more able to balance the needs of sustainable development with those of good stewardship at every level.

“Indeed, the challenge of climate change is at once individual, local, national and global. Accordingly, it urges a multilevel coordinated response, with mitigation and adaptation programs simultaneously individual, local, national and global in their vision and scope.”


30 posted on 03/10/2008 9:46:27 PM PDT by roses of sharon (Who will be McCain's maverick?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: DaveTesla
Here is the truth!

What are Capital Sins? [Seven Deadly Sins]

31 posted on 03/10/2008 10:01:22 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Salvation

Here is the most deadly sin of all:
Mark 3:28 - 3:30


32 posted on 03/10/2008 10:40:19 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: DaveTesla

Absolutely!

LOL! People are going to have to look it up to see what it is!


33 posted on 03/10/2008 10:45:41 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: DaveTesla; NYer

NYer, what say you?


34 posted on 03/11/2008 2:47:43 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^=)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DaveTesla

No, but the UK MSM is still a pitiful source of accurate news as far as Vatican is concerned.


35 posted on 03/11/2008 8:32:58 AM PDT by Campion
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DaveTesla
Lol lolololooooooo......

I hope you're laughing at the MSM, and the morons who slurp up their bilge uncritically.

That would be an appropriate target for ridicule.

36 posted on 03/11/2008 8:44:43 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DaveTesla

Why is this story still being posted. It is not accurate, it is not verified, it is not at all what was said.

I guess it is more important to post something that will generate ant-Catholic hysteria than it is to do some fact checking.

We all know how accurate the MSM is in reporting matters of religion. Yet if it places the Catholic Church in a bad light you embrace it.

Sheesh.


37 posted on 03/11/2008 10:02:13 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DaveTesla

wow.There goes that durn “Vatican” spouting off again!!

I love how these msm pieces don’t attach a personal name to the “Vatican”.

Or are reporters standing around the walls hearing whispers from the buildings?

Anyone actually seen any statments coming from Benedict or Levada?


38 posted on 03/11/2008 12:30:17 PM PDT by Scotswife
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DaveTesla

The vatican is now running away from these comments and doing some major cya spinning.


39 posted on 03/11/2008 1:18:34 PM PDT by joebuck (Finitum non capax infinitum!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: joebuck

the “vatican” never made this statement to begin with.

They cannot run away from something that was never said.


40 posted on 03/11/2008 1:38:44 PM PDT by Scotswife
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: DaveTesla
"Recycle or go to hell"!

I love it! Some headlines are awful....and then there are some that are so awful, they're good. This one is a real keeper.

What an absolutely priceless example of the dumbed down, "crap for the masses" philosophy of the British press. The Brits have turned the journalistic art of headline writing into a pantomime. A burlesque exhibition of double entendres, puns and hyperbole.

And this is in the Telegraph which has always been the most sensible of the British dailies, in my opinion.

41 posted on 03/11/2008 8:28:58 PM PDT by marshmallow
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: lastchance

Of course I am laughing at the media.

Aren’t you?

Their desperation makes them so absurd it amuses me.


42 posted on 03/14/2008 11:20:19 AM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: DaveTesla

If I am not, your post reminds me that I certainly should be. Thanks.


43 posted on 03/14/2008 11:35:59 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson