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To: vladimir998

No, it’s Catholics who believe that you can be prayed out of Purgatory if you’ve ever accepted the Catholic church’s teachings.

This is great for him, as he apparently fully accepted those teachings twice. Surely that means each prayer to get him out of Purgatory counts double.


17 posted on 03/15/2008 10:51:52 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: ConservativeMind

“No, it’s Catholics who believe that you can be prayed out of Purgatory if you’ve ever accepted the Catholic church’s teachings.”

It’s Holy Week leading up to Easter and I’m not going to get into an endless and futile debate regarding Catholicism vs. Protestantism, but please know that your above statement is patently incorrect. One can pray for people who have already died, for their very souls, but only God can judge and bring a person into heaven.


20 posted on 03/15/2008 10:56:15 AM PDT by rbmillerjr ("bigger government means constricting freedom"....................RWR)
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To: ConservativeMind

You wrote:

“No, it’s Catholics who believe that you can be prayed out of Purgatory if you’ve ever accepted the Catholic church’s teachings.”

Wrong. A one time acceptance of Catholic teaching in no way overrides the condition of your soul at the time of death. I know of no Catholic anywhere - certainly not one well catechized - who believes that a man’s actions and faith have nothing to do with his final destination. You are claiming that a mere intellectual acceptance of doctrine, once upon a time, ensures salvation. No one believes that, especially Catholics.

Try again.

“This is great for him, as he apparently fully accepted those teachings twice.”

There’s no evidence he ever accepted those teachings once let alone twice. 1) we have no evidence at all - NONE - about any particular strong devotion on his part when he was young and we know he renounced the faith when a young man. 2) He persecuted the faith and undermined it every chance he got.

Clearly he was not Catholic.

“Surely that means each prayer to get him out of Purgatory counts double.”

Surely your post is proof of not only ignorance but bitterness and bigotry as well.


21 posted on 03/15/2008 10:59:44 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: ConservativeMind
No, it's Catholics who believe that you can be prayed out of Purgatory if you've ever accepted the Catholic church's teachings.

That only works if you actually get to purgatory.

If you get to the Bad Place, no amount of praying gets you out.

58 posted on 03/15/2008 12:02:49 PM PDT by Campion
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