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In particular we pray that they come to know the intimacy between Jesus and His Mother

And this intimacy would appear where in Scripture? Because a careful reading of Scripture clearly tells us that Christ considers all believers as close to Him as His own mother and brothers.

Indeed it adds a depth and richness to the story of salvation on which so many miss out.

The "story" of salvation does not need any added depth or richness beyond what Christ accomplished on the cross -- alone.

The RCC seems oblivious to the nearly incestuous shellac with which they tarnish the relationship between Christ and Mary. It is not only unScriptural and blasphemous, it's thoroughly unseemly.

Thanks for your kind words and ping.

I don’t understand what all went into my reinstatement any more than I understood about the why’s of the suspension originally. I greatly appreciate it and am humbled by it.

However, I am going to TRY and earnestly lay low from public posting the original slated 3 days and prayerfully ponder what The Lord might have me learn from all this.

If someone has a pressing issue to bounce off of me, I’ll likely be willing to reply by FREEPMAIL.

Blessings, to all who love Jesus and to all FREEPERS supporting FR and our beleagured REPUBLIC.

In particular we pray that they come to know the intimacy between Jesus and His Mother And this intimacy would appear where in Scripture? Because a careful reading of Scripture clearly tells us that Christ considers all believers as close to Him as His own mother and brothers. Indeed it adds a depth and richness to the story of salvation on which so many miss out. The "story" of salvation does not need any added depth or richness beyond what Christ accomplished on the cross -- alone. The RCC seems oblivious to the nearly incestuous shellac with which they tarnish the relationship between Christ and Mary. It is not only unScriptural and blasphemous, it's thoroughly unseemly.

Amen.

For whoever shall do the will of God the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.(Mk.3:35)

Christ had all three.

And this intimacy would appear where in Scripture? Because a careful reading of Scripture clearly tells us that Christ considers all believers as close to Him as His own mother and brothers.

So there was no special intimacy between Jesus and his mother? You jest. Even the most depraved of human sinners hold their mothers in special esteem. Murderers weep when they speak of their own mothers.

If you have come to this conclusion from a "careful reading of Scripture", then I think it's fair to say you've totally missed the beauty of the Gospels and New Testament. You've parsed Scripture to a point where it's meaning has been lost. A reading of the Gospel of Luke, for instance, speaks clearly of this wonderful intimacy. John the Baptist lept in Elizabeth's womb at the greeting of Mary.

There's a bare, minimalist, coldness in the way you attempt to confine God's plan of salvation, as if the inclusion of those whom God himself chose to participate in this plan, somehow dishonors Him. Don't put God in a box. Jesus was in no way obligated to come to us through Mary, or to live under her care in Nazareth. He could have come down to us the same way he left us; on a cloud. But He didn't. Mary brackets the story of redemption. She begins it with her "yes" to the angel and she receives the last words of Jesus just before he dies on the Cross, "behold your son".

It's an irrational, dictatorial, selfish God whom you worship. One who is paranoid that we might honor those whom He himself loved when He lived amongst us. There's almost a whiff of Islam about it.

The "story" of salvation does not need any added depth or richness beyond what Christ accomplished on the cross -- alone.

Mary's role as Co-Redemptrix (again this is not defined as De Fide dogma) is completely subordinate and entirely dependent on Christ's redemption and sacrifice. It is a cooperative role just as we are called to be "co-workers" with God in salvation (1 Cor 3:9; 2 Cor 5:20; 6:1 cf. Phil 2:12-13). In the sense previously defined, the primary meaning of Co-Redemptrix, that Mary cooperated in the Redemption through the Incarnation of Christ, there certainly is plenty of biblical support for the claim that Mary "with Christ redeemed mankind" (John 1:1,14; 3:16-17; 1 John 4:9-14). The Adam-Christ (Rom 5:12ff; 1 Cor 15:20ff) and Eve-Mary parallel is found throughout the early Fathers of the Church, from St. Justin Martyr (c. 150 AD) forward showing us the entire history of Christianity believed that "Mary with Christ redeemed" the human race. This important early belief is stated explicitly by St. Irenaeus:

"By disobeying, Eve became the cause of death for herself and for the whole human race. In the same way Mary, though she also had a husband, was still a virgin, and by obeying, she became the cause of salvation for herself and for the whole human race..." (St. Irenaeus, Against Heresies 3:22 c. 180 AD)

The RCC seems oblivious to the nearly incestuous shellac with which they tarnish the relationship between Christ and Mary. It is not only unScriptural and blasphemous, it's thoroughly unseemly.

Human suffering is not redemptive by ourselves alone, but ONLY because we as Christians are united to Christ as part of his saving body, the branches in the vine (John 15:1-8). The Blessed Virgin Mother of God, as the preeminant saint and member of the Church, by her loving obedience and cooperation in the Incarnation, by her sufferings at the cross, and by her present prayer and intercession in heaven, has indeed brought salvation to the body of Christ, and redemption to the whole world. This way she really is the Co-Redemptrix of humanity and Mediatrix of all graces.