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MEMO TO OPRAH: HEED WARNING THAT WHAT YOU DABBLE WITH IS DARKER THAN DANGER
Spirit Daily ^ | April 2, 2008

Posted on 04/02/2008 1:39:58 PM PDT by NYer

Oprah Winfrey, dangers lurk for you. You are in danger and -- no doubt unintentionally -- you are putting millions of others at risk.

You are a good person. No doubt about that either. You have done charitable things. You have made Americans, especially women, aware of matters with which they should be familiar. You have striven to be spiritual.

But it is precisely in this realm -- spirituality -- that you have crossed the line.

It is good to be open, Oprah. It is good to be inclusive. It is good to see that the Light of God can shine in ways we have not imagined, and in people who differ religiously.

We try not to be closed-minded. Everyone can be deceived. That includes us. And we agree that it's unfortunate when folks think they have the truth (and nothing but the truth) and that no one who doesn't think and believe exactly as they think and believe has a shot at Heaven. We strongly dislike cultic behavior -- in whatever religion it rears its head.

The most important thing is whether we love each other and whether we love God. Jesus told us that, and true Christians acknowledge it. John Paul II said the same. So does Benedict. On this we should all find common ground. When we get to Heaven, there are going to be many surprises for the closed-minded!

But Oprah, you are stepping onto treacherous territory. You are promoting the New Age to such an extent that you have become its doyenne. USA Today says of you: "She's no longer just a successful talk-show host worth $1.4 billion, according to Forbes' most recent estimate. Over the past year, Winfrey, 52, has emerged as a spiritual leader for the new millennium, a moral voice of authority for the nation."

There is much good you have done. And there are many points that sound good -- and by themselves are good -- in arcane philosophies.

But if you will excuse a strong opinion, you have wandered into the domain of deception. Your creed, the New Age, Oprah, is the old lie of paganism -- reheated occultism -- and you are its greatest current purveyor.

Good as many aspects are, the teachings you promote focus on self and materialism. That's the beginning of the problems. They also downplay Jesus. They take liberties with the Bible. They are too general about God, too impersonal. He becomes an energy. You yourself, in defending the New Agers, have said, from what we now read, that He [Jesus] is not the only way.

He is not the only way, Oprah?

We realize that God will judge in a way we can not fathom (there are millions who have not been given the opportunity to know Him). But here's the bottom line: your dabbling with mystery religions began in a big way in 1992 with promotion of a work called A Course in Miracles. It is very big with you right now. You are having this "course" taught even over your international XM satellite radio channel. Meanwhile, on your show, you have promoted a long series of those whose intentions may be good but who are mainstays in what can only be described as occultism.

It is not a matter of a crack in your door, Oprah; your door has been blown wide open.

Let's stay, for a moment, on the Course. It is based, as you know, on the revelations of Helen Schucman -- a Columbia University professor of medical psychology who "channeled" a spirit beginning in 1965 and hit it big with the psychic crowd in the 1970s. It bears many resemblances -- the philosophy it espouses -- with aspects of witchcraft.

"For seven years Schucman diligently took spiritual dictation from this inner voice that described himself as 'Jesus,'" states one biography. "A Course in Miracles was quietly published in 1975 by the Foundation for Inner Peace. For many years 'the Course' was an underground cult classic for New Age seekers who studied 'the Course' individually, with friends, or in small study groups."

As one preacher has outlined it, the "course" instructs that there is no sin, that the Crucified Christ bears little relevance, that His journey to the Cross should be the last "useless" journey (that we should not "cling" to that ancient piece of wood), that finding God is through finding self, that our focus should be on our own limitless power, that there is no need for salvation, that the Name of Jesus is a "symbol," and that evil -- at least in the way Christians view evil -- does not exist.

Oprah, if that's not enough to raise red flags, what about how the "channeler" -- Helen Schucman -- died?

This we take from a fellow Columbia psychologist (but also a priest) named Father Benedict Groeschel:

"Groeschel continued to try to 'open the doors of the Church' to Schucman, but his influence was subverted by her husband, William Thetford, also a Columbia professor, a mysterious character, and 'probably the most sinister person I ever met,' the priest recalled," according to one writer, Randall Cunningham. "Only after he retired from teaching did Thetford's Columbia colleagues (who knew him best as a rare-books expert) discover that all during the years they worked with him, the man had been employed as an agent of the CIA -- one who was, among other things, present at the first fission experiment conducted by physicists assigned to the Manhattan Project. Thetford also was 'the most religious atheist I have ever known,' Groeschel recalled, and conceived a great enthusiasm for A Course in Miracles, personally arranging for its publication.

"Schucman was embarrassed, Groeschel remembered, and confided to the priest her fear that the book would create a cult, which of course it did.

"Groeschel initially read the Course as 'religious poetry," but grew steadily more negative in his assessment of it as the years passed and sales of the three volumes passed into the millions of copies.

"From his point of view, A Course in Miracles served to undermine authentic Christianity more effectively than just about any other work he could recall."

In one of his books, Father Groeschel describes the "black hole of rage and depression that Schucman fell into during the last two years of her life." 

She had become frightening to be with, Groeschel recalled -- spewing "psychotic hatred" for all things spiritual, even her own Course in Miracles.

When the priest sat at her deathbed, we are informed, she "cursed, in the coarsest barroom language you could imagine, 'that book, that [---] book.' She said it was the worst thing that ever happened to her. I mean, she raised the hair on the back of my neck. It was truly terrible to witness."

Cursing one's own work? A black hole of rage?

Oprah, this is not a good fruit and yet this is the author of the teachings you now promote to the entire world. Schucman regularly disavowed the teachings in her last years!

But the Course lives on by way of an author named Marianne Williamson, who gained fame, Oprah, through your show -- as have other New Agers.

Baptists, Methodists, and Presbyterians have used The Course in Sunday schools and special study groups within the church. Presently there are over 1,500 official study groups that have utilized The Course both inside and outside traditional Christian churches.

And the Course is only the beginning. Here's a list of what you have promoted. You were also the force behind a deeply New Age bestseller called The Secret, and now -- big-time -- a book by Ekhart Tole called A New Earth, which many associate with the New Age (we don't yet know enough about it).

Our paths once crossed when you were starting out as a young talk-show host in Baltimore. You were an excellent, well-informed interviewer. Our paths have not crossed since then. They say that many junctures of your career were "magical" -- instant success. Perhaps it was a blessing. We can't discern. We can say that you are talented. And we can say that you have strayed. "Although I meditate every day and I pray every night and I read spiritual material, my greatest teaching is The Wizard of Oz," we see you quoted as saying. "[The good witch says to Dorothy] 'You've always had the power, my dear. You've always had the power!' [then you said, Oprah] 'That good witch, she's my girl!"

Oprah, there is no such thing as a good witch.

"I've got a new light shining inside!" you say. And you want your viewers to have that light glowing within them, too.

Oprah, that's admirable.

But make sure that your fame and fortune comes from the right place; make sure the light you see is not a shining darkness. 

As for Schucman, your guru?

"What Groeschel found to be at once most thrilling and confusing about Helen Schucman's process was that, during the time she wrote A Course in Miracles (a book that any number of fundamentalist Christian ministers have called the most dangerous ever published), she became intensely attracted to the Catholic Church, attended Mass regularly, and was devoted to the Virgin Mary," wrote Cunningham. "Only under close questioning did Schucman admit that, many years earlier, she had briefly been a Christian. This had resulted from an 'accidental' childhood visit to Lourdes, where she had been so moved that she received Baptism upon her return to the U.S. She also had prayed the Rosary for years afterwards, Schucman claimed, until she adopted scientific skepticism as her creed, and lived by it for most of her adult life."

What was perhaps most chilling and to the point is that Schucman ended up dying on the Lourdes feast day.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: newage; oprah
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1 posted on 04/02/2008 1:39:58 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

This needed posting.


2 posted on 04/02/2008 1:40:34 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer

I was at university in the 1960s and I recall this stuff coming out around then. We had a brief flirtation with the ouija board at our Bible college but fortunately it scared us enough so we abandoned it quickly; but there were plenty of people studying Edgar Cayce and this Course later on.

Our professor of Old Testament said that it was the same temptation the snake offered Eve: the idea that “knowing” good and evil was enough in and of itself — and hiding the really important question: “And after that, then what?”


3 posted on 04/02/2008 1:48:29 PM PDT by Appleby
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To: NYer
>This needed posting

Yeah. Get back to me
when Oprah loses her cash
or turns into salt . . .
4 posted on 04/02/2008 1:51:40 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: NYer

Am I reading this right?
Spirit Daily is chastising Oprah about this?
“USA Today says of you: “She’s no longer just a successful talk-show host worth $1.4 billion, according to Forbes’ most recent estimate. Over the past year, Winfrey, 52, has emerged as a spiritual leader for the new millennium, a moral voice of authority for the nation.”

She didn’t say it, USA Today did.
Why aren’t they getting on them?

I’m not a fan of Oprah’s but let’s point fingers in the right direction here.


5 posted on 04/02/2008 1:53:12 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am very mad at Disney. Give me my James Marsden song!!!!!)
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To: NYer
But Oprah, you are stepping onto treacherous territory. You are promoting the New Age to such an extent that you have become its doyenne.

Pot, meet Kettle.

6 posted on 04/02/2008 2:06:23 PM PDT by mnehring
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7 posted on 04/02/2008 3:47:23 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: NYer

I thought the article was going to warn her to back off her support of Obama.

Maybe she has? I haven’t seen much about her on the campaign trail recently.

I don’t know about Oprah’s beliefs, but it’s correct that if you open your mind up to this spiritualist junk, there’s no telling what will sneak in.


8 posted on 04/02/2008 4:04:28 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

I’m afraid Oprah is beginning to think SHE is God.


9 posted on 04/02/2008 4:08:58 PM PDT by lonestar
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To: Appleby
We had a brief flirtation with the ouija board at our Bible college but fortunately it scared us enough so we abandoned it quickly; but there were plenty of people studying Edgar Cayce and this Course later on.

Wow ... you too?! My friends and I were caught up with the OUIJA board, asking all those silly questions girls ponder - "who will I marry?", etc. Then one day, the 'spirit' shot us a warning and everything stopped. We sat there dumbfounded and finally asked "Is there anyone there?" The planchette shot up to OUI. It was mid-summer and the house had no a/c but the air grew cold enough to make us shiver and put on sweaters. The family cat came in, hunched its back, screeched and ran back outside. We asked the spirit for its name; it spelled out B-E-E-L-Z-E-B-U-B ! I was never so frightened in my life. We 'tested' it by asking who were the worst sinners in the house and it named the two youngest children (aged 6 and 8). It wanted to make a pact with one of the girls and promised to give her anything she wanted including'ed'. At that, I laughed, thinking it was all a joke - can't even spell. And then it dawned on me that it was promising this girl the one thing only I knew she wanted - a guy named, Ed! With that, I sent one of the young children upstairs to get a rosary. We placed this on the planchette. The planchette shot across the room and into the unlit fireplace. I will NEVER forget that day and have shared it with youth who have expressed an interest in the OUIJA board.

Edgar Casey - I read ALL of his books! And what about Hal Lindsey's book, "The Late Great Planet Earth". Do you recall the advertisements in local newspapers where you could write away for more information on the Rosicrucians? Fortunately, I missed out on this nonsense.

Thanks for the post! Its consoling to know that I was not the only one sucked into new age nonsense.

10 posted on 04/02/2008 4:32:07 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer

Interesting reading here:

http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/?p=566

and here:

http://herescope.blogspot.com/


11 posted on 04/02/2008 5:06:54 PM PDT by Abigail Adams
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To: lonestar

“I’m afraid Oprah is beginning to think SHE is God.”

Absolutely she does. That is the heart of new age/new spirituality/eastern spirituality—the self as god.


12 posted on 04/02/2008 5:07:56 PM PDT by Abigail Adams
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To: NYer

I had a terrific, enduring, insidious temptation through my teen years to purchase a (an?) ouija board. This was on top of a fascination with things parapsychological — but not occult in the manner of outwardly evil — I was never drawn to that. Fortunately something stopped me from ever purchasing the ouija board and the fascination with parapsychology passed.

Your story is poltergeist fare of screenplay quality. Glad it happened to you and not to me! Just sitting in a theater watching “The Exorcist” gave me nightmares for at least 10 years.

Recently, a teenage boy in our area killed his mother after playing with a ouija board. He claims the ouija board was giving him commands. He is a very screwed up young man, and I don’t know if you can say the oiija board was the sole cause, but it seems to have contributed.

The religion/philosophy that Oprah is adopting scares me more than all of the above.


13 posted on 04/02/2008 6:24:46 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: Abigail Adams
That is the heart of new age/new spirituality/eastern spirituality—the self as god.

Well, I don't think that Buddhism and Hinduism et. al., as practiced in the east, can be characterized quite that way, but it is possible that westerners manage to corrupt things in that direction. I have always thought of the ME movement as quite distinctly western, and to deify self as the next step.

14 posted on 04/02/2008 6:32:43 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: NYer

Yes, it did. I fear that Oprah’s faithful sheeple will buy into her new age, feel good ‘wisdom’. I remember hearing about the book and it’s author year ago, and being warned. Ever since she’s had Marianne Williamson and Deepak Chopra on, she seems to have changed, to be in love with the ‘god’ in her.


15 posted on 04/02/2008 6:34:16 PM PDT by fortunecookie (Communism/socialism has failed millions, it wasn't right for them - and it isn't right for US.)
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To: fortunecookie
Deepak Chopra

If there was ever anyone who showcased the worst aspects of both cultures....

16 posted on 04/02/2008 6:43:49 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: steve86
If there was ever anyone who showcased the worst aspects of both cultures....

Amen to that! ;-)

I even kind of liked him the first time I saw him on Oprah. He seemed so serene. Yeah, lol, I did watch Oprah occasionally a few years ago, maybe a decade. I wondered how Oprah squared his words with the Christianity she professed to have. Now we know, she has been on some kind of journey to new age enlightenment and dragged some of her screaming fans with her. Sometimes her fans remind me of the footage of frenzied, screaming Beatles or Elvis fans.

17 posted on 04/02/2008 6:50:18 PM PDT by fortunecookie (Communism/socialism has failed millions, it wasn't right for them - and it isn't right for US.)
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To: steve86

Well, they say “namaste” in yoga (a Hindu spiritual practice), which means “the god in me bows to the god in you.” Any religion that says the divine is in you, or god is all so you are god, or speaks of the higher self or christ consciousness, etc., is essentially saying that you are god. It goes way back to that serpent in the Garden of Eden.


18 posted on 04/02/2008 7:15:48 PM PDT by Abigail Adams
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To: NYer

I remember when the Ouija board used to come out at slumber parties. I hated sleepover parties to begin with, and I hated and was scared of that damn board. So I always moved the planchette thing myself before anything creepy could happen...


19 posted on 04/02/2008 7:34:22 PM PDT by cammie
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To: Abigail Adams
Well, when my Indian wife (who is Catholic) says "Namasté!" to her friends at the cultural center it more simply means "hi". But I know what you are talking about and it has to do with the division between the worldly part of the person and the spiritual part of the person. You use the phrase "higher self" which is correct. But I think you are entirely demeaning the term to say that means the individual is God. I don't think it is that different from "We are made in the image of God" as Christians. Those who exalt humanity to the point of deification are doing something entirely different to my way of thinking.
20 posted on 04/02/2008 8:15:46 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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