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A Mormon Mason: New grand master is the first in a century who is LDS
Deseret Morning News ^ | March 29, 2008 | Carrie A. Moore

Posted on 04/03/2008 8:28:09 PM PDT by Alex Murphy

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To: Alex Murphy

I am somewhat suprised.

The founders of Mormonism were members of the masonic fraternity and basically lifted the entire “ritual” practice of their relgion (right down to secret handshakes)from the fraternal rituals.

This made Smith, et al, oath breakers of the worst kind.

Moreover, twisting the fraternity into a gnostic religion is abhorent to the principles of freemasonry.

That said, it’s not the current mormon members’ fault what their founders did, I suppose, and mormons are generally good men of sound character (Romney and Dingy Harry Reid excepted).


21 posted on 04/04/2008 6:45:55 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Mossad!)
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To: Alex Murphy
"I think sometimes we spend too much time worrying about issues that don't really matter to our salvation."

Ain't that the truth.

22 posted on 04/04/2008 7:23:41 AM PDT by GVnana ("They're still analyzing the first guy. What do I have to worry about?" - GWB)
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To: Chode

Yep - George Washington along with thirteen other Presidents of the US were “cultists”, along with thousands of those who made this Country great.


23 posted on 04/04/2008 7:27:44 AM PDT by oldtimer
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To: B.Bolt

Yes freemasonry is a religious organization... I don’t know the details but from what I recall it sounds pretty esoteric and strange to me. My godparents were members of the order of the Eastern Star, another fraternal organization. The husband was a Shriner also. They were my sponsors because my parents didn’t know any better at that time.


24 posted on 04/04/2008 7:58:57 AM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: B.Bolt

I trust Ken Silva and he has an article on it here:
http://www.apprising.org/archives/2005/08/keeping_you_app_5.html

these others I just glanced at but might be worth checking out too.

http://christianclarityreview.wpblogs.com/2006/08/02/lucifer-through-the-masons-you-dont-understand-we-worship-the-good-lucifer/
http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Cults/masons.htm
http://www.withoneaccord.org/store/SecretSins.html
http://www.ephesians5-11.org/opnltr.htm
http://www.ephesians5-11.org/christn.htm
http://www.ephesians5-11.org/glasses.htm
http://www.cephasministry.com/n1083.html


25 posted on 04/04/2008 8:08:26 AM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: B.Bolt

btw even Oprah is becoming a cult with her spiritual nonsense with Eckhardt Tolle and Marianne Williamson etc.

Nuts! Christians have NO discernment anymore and the church is full of tares.


26 posted on 04/04/2008 8:09:27 AM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Terriergal
Freemasonry lacks the basic elements of religion:

It has no dogma or theology (and by forbidding religious discussion at its meetings will not allow a Masonic dogma to develop).

It offers no sacraments.

It does not claim to lead to salvation, by works, secret knowledge, or any other means (the secrets of Freemasonry are concerned with modes of recognition, not with salvation)

Freemasonry is far from indifferent to religion. Without interfering in religious practice, it expects each member to follow his own faith, and to place his duty to God above all other duties. Its moral teachings are acceptable to all religions.

27 posted on 04/04/2008 8:21:00 AM PDT by mnehring (Why are goldbugs so willing to trade their gold for your fiat currency?)
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To: oldtimer
Image hosted by Photobucket.com sometimes it's funny to listen to...
28 posted on 04/04/2008 8:36:01 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: PJ-Comix
George Washington was a cultist?

Maybe so. It always seemed pretty weird to me that Washington performed some sort of pseudo-religious ceremony involving corn, wine, and oil while laying the cornerstone of the capitol.

29 posted on 04/04/2008 8:44:37 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: mnehrling

Well said.

I joined the masons as a Jew and converted to Christianity -— and never did the lodge blink (or even know or care).


30 posted on 04/04/2008 9:13:44 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Mossad!)
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To: wideminded

“It always seemed pretty weird to me that Washington performed some sort of pseudo-religious ceremony involving corn, wine, and oil while laying the cornerstone of the capitol.”

Yeah, I think Washington was an . . . Anglican! Cultist!

(The cornerstone ritual orginated with the Bishop of Salsbury.)


31 posted on 04/04/2008 9:17:23 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Mossad!)
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To: Terriergal; uglybiker

Ms P - Ken Silva is full of it, I’ve been a Master Mason for 22 years. All of you experts and cult kooks make me laugh.


32 posted on 04/04/2008 9:51:51 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: MeanWestTexan
Brigham Young was a Mason. Parley Pratt was a Mason, the list is endless.
33 posted on 04/04/2008 10:03:15 AM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: uglybiker
Thanks for the ping, UB. :-)

34 posted on 04/04/2008 11:09:54 AM PDT by bd476
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To: mnehrling

get to the higher levels and then come back and say that.


35 posted on 04/04/2008 3:09:45 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: blackie

Are you SURE about that?? I thought truth was open to interpretation?


36 posted on 04/04/2008 3:10:31 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Terriergal

Isn’t that what the conspiracy theorists always say. You just don’t know because you aren’t high enough in the ‘conspiracy’?


37 posted on 04/04/2008 3:15:00 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: B.Bolt

It’s amazing how people who routinely answer me with “that’s your interpretation” seem so sure of their own. sigh.


38 posted on 04/04/2008 3:17:40 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Terriergal; TheThirdRuffian
Ping Brother ThirdRuffian
As a 33 Degree, I thought you may want to respond to the accusation that it is not known to the blue lodges because our level isn't high enough.
39 posted on 04/04/2008 3:18:35 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehrling

Ok. So what’s your representation of Christianity then? Give me the gospel.


40 posted on 04/04/2008 3:21:10 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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