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To: baa39

That’s suspension “a divinis.” They seem to have figured out what to do with priests, actually, but the case of bishops is a little more complicated. And I imagine that the case of archbishops will be even more complicated, not because they are any different from bishops in terms of their sacramental powers, but simply because they’re more powerful and influential on a secular level.

If some of these allegations are correct, even some of our archbishops are part of the lavender mafia. IMO, this is why the situation of homosexuality among the priests has been so difficult to solve: it’s become part of the structure of many dioceses, from the top to the bottom. One of the problems with cliques of homosexual males is that they tend to promote and give preference to each other, which is precisely one of the reasons that efforts have always been made to keep them out of the military. In the American Church, we’re seeing their effect on an institution that they have largely taken over, and it ain’t pretty.


30 posted on 04/25/2008 4:12:07 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius

Thanks. You are correct, some bishops and archbishops are part of the “lavender mafia,” certainly not all, but much more than just a few. These people do all stick together and do promote, hire or cover for one another.

This is true in two areas, each which needs to be addressed a little differently by the Church from the highest levels. One is the topic here, basically diocesan priests and bishops. The other area is certain religious orders, or firmly entrenched groups within those orders, which have become almost like secret homosexual societies.

Given that these orders, the Jesuits for example, are even more “closed societies” than the Church hierarchy, with very little accountability, it will be difficult to reform them without aggressive action.

Interestingly, reform in the Church often comes not from the top, but from the laity. What’s happening is that healthy, normal young men are less and less attracted to the orders that have been perverted, and more men are becoming priests in the newer orders, or more orthodox orders. So the hope is that the aging fags controlling certain orders will gradually (were talking decades here) die, while their orders die along with them.

Another thing happening is there are “undercover” groups in some “bad”orders of faithful, orthodox men who don’t reveal their firm faith (hide those rosary beads) until they are ordained. Their intention is to reform their orders from within, it’s a deliberate and loosely organized plan in some areas, but very difficult to carry out where the insistence on defiance and deviance is pretty heavy-handed.

If this sounds like a weird conspiracy theory, all I can say in this forum is most people have no idea of the corruption, I would not except for family connections. But the sort of priests and people we see on EWTN are countering this evil and we must support them, good priests and bishops, with our prayers and more if we can. And we must refrain from supporting any “Catholic” organization without deeply looking into it to see if it’s still Catholic.


36 posted on 04/25/2008 2:21:01 PM PDT by baa39 ("God bless America" - Pope Benedict XVI)
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