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Posted on 05/02/2008 9:09:14 AM PDT by XeniaSt
Also, you may know that Daniel’s seventieth week will be a seven-year Sabbatical Intrigued with the Scriptures that repeat over and over again that our Savior’s As you may know, this year is a Sabbatical Year in the Jewish Calendar.
Starting next September 29, 2008, a new Sabbatical cycle will commence.
It will run for seven years and conclude with another Sabbatical Year in 2014/15.
cycle. Students of biblical prophecy have long compared Daniel’s seventieth week
with the Tribulation Period as laid out in the book of Revelation.
Second Coming will be heralded with signs in the heavens, in which the sun will
be turned into darkness and the moon into blood, Pastor Mark Biltz went on the
Internet, to a U.S. Government web site, to see if he could find any solar or lunar
eclipses over the next few years that might be significant.
(Excerpt) Read more at prophecyinthenews.com ...
The Jew looks for a signs and the Greek looks for wisdom.shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach AdonaiThis year is a sabbatical year; seven years from now will be another sabbatical year.
Is there anything special in the year 2014 or 2015 ?
Scripturally that is; let's ignore the Aztec calendar for now.
NAU Revelation 6:12 I looked when He broke the sixth seal, and thereThe sun darkens and the moon becomes like blood.
was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth
made of hair, and the whole moon became like blood;Solar and Lunar Eclipses perhaps ?
Lunar Eclipses
The four lunar eclipses will occur on:
Passover, April 15, 2014This sequence of four signs ( eclipses) on YHvH's feasts does not occur often,
The Feast of Tabernacles, October 8, 2014
Passover, April 4, 2015 and
The Feast of Tabernacles, September 28, 2015
the last time was 1967-1968 (six day war and the capture of Jerusalem)
and 1949-1950 ( the year after the State of Israel was formed)
and 1493 the year after the Jews were expelled from Spain.During 2014 - 2015 there will also be Solar Eclipses on YHvH's feast days:
Adar 29/Nisan 1, March 20, 2015What is coming up this year and next?
Tishri 1, The Feast of Trumpets, September 13, 2015Av 1 - August 1, 2008 - partial eclipseIn the Jewish calendar, they are all on the first of Av, the day when Jews
Av 1 - July 22, 2008 - partial eclipse
Av 1 - July 11, 2010 - partial eclipse
lament the destruction of their temples. As the story goes, Moses caught
the people worshiping the Golden Calf on Tammuz 17. Therefore, the three weeks
from Tammuz 17 to Av 9 are called “the dark time” and “between the straits.”
It is the most sorrowful time of the year for Jews. From Av 1-9, no bathing
is allowed; no comforts; no clean clothes; the Jew takes his shoes off; sits
on an overturned chair and reads the book of Lamentations.
Messianic Pastor Mark Biltz discovered these signs occurring on YHvH's Feast days.
For a deeper understanding of potential Prophetic events,
possibly pointing to Daniel's seventieth week.
Read Solar and Lunar Eclipses in 2014/15 by J. R. Church
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Guillermo Gonzalez & Jay W Richards, The Privileged Planet: How Our Place In The Cosmos Is Designed For Discovery
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Since I am not a chr*stian, please take me off this ping list. Thank you.
Not a problem. Just thought you might be interested.As It effects Israel.
Is this fellow predicting EOTW in 2014 or 2015?
If so, good. That's a nice, hard, verifiable prediction.
If we're still around in 2016 ... we'll know he's bogus.
Is this fellow predicting EOTW in 2014 or 2015?
If so, good. That's a nice, hard, verifiable prediction.
If we're still around in 2016 ... we'll know he's bogus.
EOTW ?b'SHEM Yah'shua
No!
Second coming ? perhaps.
Perhaps??? PERHAPS?????
ROFL!!!!!!
Perhaps??? PERHAPS?????
ROFL!!!!!!
NAsbU 1 Corinthians 1:23 but we preach Christ crucified,
b'SHEM Yah'shua
to Jews a stumbling block and to Gentiles foolishness,
See ya in 2016.
BTW - what is a "Messianic Pastor"?
If the time of Jacob’s trouble or Daniel’s 70th week is 7 years, the 2012 date could be the middle year of that time. One interpretation is that the last 31/2 years is the time of God’s wrath so it very easily might be the end of time as we know it.
A Messianic Pastor is the head of a congregation that follows the Hebrew Torah walk of faith vs the Greco Roman walk of faith.
But that would mean Art and George were right! Now where’s the fun in listening to Coast To Coast if I have to consider they may be actually correct? :)
BTW - what is a "Messianic Pastor"?
I'll let Mark explain it on his website: El Shaddai Ministries
How can one claim to be entering into a jewish sabbatical year when no one will be observing the sabbatical year as defined in Scripture?
Revelation does not describe any sort of solar or lunar eclipse. Just read the context:
12 I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood. 13 And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind. 14 Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place. 15 And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, 16 and said to the mountains and rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?"The symbolic language describes phenomena that cannot be predicted by consulting astronomical tables. But men will continue to misinterpret the Bible to support their notions of future events.
Correct me if I’m wrong - but I believe they follow the Torah AND they believe that their Messiah was/is Jesus. (Just like the first disciples). So they also believe the New Testament as well.
I asked a Messianic Jew Rabbi if he considered himself a “Christian” based on some of the comments I had read awhile back on FR. He looked at me funny and said “of course!” But, on further discussion he said that because he is Jewish and most of the people he witnesses to are Jewish, he prefers to be called a Messianic Jew. He said the Jews he talks to understand the term “Messiah”, while the term “Christian” is almost derogatory.
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Mazol Tov !
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua
There were over 237 years of error introduced
following the Council of Jamnia in 90 CE.
Error? You mean the Jews that follow the Talmud are off by 237 years, or the author of your OP is off by 237 years?
The Messianic Jewish Movementshalom b'SHEM Yah'shua
Does that mean they are living under the Law?
Very interesting article Chuck. Thanks for the ping and I’ll study it more in depth later on this sabbath.
Well...he’s a little fast and loose on these dates. I have Redshift 5 astronomy software, and I used this in conjunction with the Hebcal Interactive Jewish Calendar (http://www.hebcal.com/hebcal/) to find the following:
1948:
The maximum for the lunar eclipse around Passover took place on April 23 at 13:42 Universal Time (ie: Greenwich Mean time which is 2 hours behind Jerusalem time). The time for Erev Pesach was the following sundown, approximately 3-4 hours later in Jerusalem. So, technically, it was on the previous day, relatively to the Hebrew calendar
The maximum for the lunar eclipse around Sukkot took place on October 18 at 2:32 UT. Erev Sukkot had begun the previous sundown, so this “date correspondence” is “correct,” as they would both have occured on the same calendar day in the Jewish calendar.
1949:
Lunar eclipse for Passover occured April 13, with a midpoint at 4:12 UT. Erev Pesach began the previous sundown, within the same Jewish calendar day, so this correspondence is “correct.”
Lunar eclipse for Sukkot occured October 7, midpoint at 2:56 UT. Erev Sukkot occured at sundown on October 7, so this makes the two events take place on separate days in the Jewish calendar. There is no “correspondence.”
1967:
Passover eclipse: April 23, 12:08 UT. Erev Pesach took place the following sundown, hours later. Different Jewish calendar days, no correspondence.
Sukkot eclipse: October 18, 10:05 UT. Erev Sukkot took place the following sundown, many hours later. Different Jewish calendar days, no correspondence.
1968:
Passover eclipse: April 13, 4;46 UT. Erev Pesach occured the previous sundown. Same Jewish calendar day, correspondence.
Sukkot eclipse: October 6, 11:41 UT. Erev Sukkot occured the previous sundown. Same Jewish calendar day, correspondence.
2014:
Passover eclipse will occur April 15, 7:47 UT. Erev pesach will have begun the previous sundown. Same Jewish calendar day, correspondence.
Sukkot eclipse will occur October 8, 10:54 UT. Erev Sukkot will begin the following sundown. Different Jewish calendar days, no correspondence.
2015:
Passover eclipse will occur April 4, 12:00 UT. Erev Pesach will have begun the previous sundown. Same Jewish calendar day, correspondence.
Sukkot eclipse will occur on September 28, 2:46 UT. Erev Sukkot will have begun the previous sundown. Same Jewish calendar day, correspondence.
Okay. So what does that all mean? Well, of the 12 events listed, only 7 of them actually correspond, in the Jewish calendar, to the eclipse and the feast occuring on the same day. Five eclipse events occur on the previous day, according to the Hebrew calendar. If one wants to simply look at Gregorian dates, and ignore the Jewish calendar (days beginning at sundown, etc.), that doesn’t solve the problem. Indeed, it makes it worse. Seven of the events, figured this way, would have Erev Pesach or Erev Sukkot occur on the previous Gregorian calendar day, and only 5 would correspond.
In short, while it is sort of “interesting” that these 12 events occur “within a day either way” of Passover and Sukkot, that is not the same as saying that they are as miraculously aligned as the article implies. If God really wanted this kind of described correspondence to “mean something,” He could have been more precise than this. Therefore, these eclipses very likely have no real significance whatsoever.
1948: “relatively” = “relative”
Long day. Sheesh!
Messianic Jews do not seek salvation by living by the Law. They know that the Blood of the Passover Lamb covers all their sins. However they do not follow man-made traditions developed from paganism. They seek to follow Yah'shua's commandments as he commanded us. NAsbU John 14:15 "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments. That depends on what you mean by living under the Law.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua
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Most of the folks on this forum will not even realize the significance of this.....that God's calendar is based on the Lunar cycle. When told of that fact they'll say something like "Oh, we're not under the Law......"! LOL
Good Article Chuck.
I think Matthew 25 applies to most of those.shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua
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