Posted on 05/08/2008 10:54:13 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
NEW YORK (CNS) -- For the first time, representatives of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints participated in a papal prayer service -- and it all started over coffee.
In an interview with Catholic News Service and other reporters before the start of the ecumenical prayer service at St. Joseph's Church in New York April 18, Father James Massa, executive director of the U.S. bishops' Secretariat of Ecumenical and Interrreligious Affairs, said that during a coffee break at a recent meeting a representative of the Latter-day Saints asked him if there was any possibility of their participation in the papal visit.
"My reaction was, 'Why not?' We have shared values and there is a possibility of collaboration on a number of social issues while respecting our theological differences," he said.
Father Massa said, "We're not making any theological statements today," adding, "This is a very big statement they (the Latter-day Saints) are making."
He said the Latter-day Saints are "a bit bruised" by reaction to the presidential campaign of Republican Mitt Romney, a Mormon. National polls found that many Americans were uncomfortable with the idea of a Mormon president.
Representing the Latter-day Saints at the April 18 meeting in New York were two members of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, Elders M. Russell Ballard and Quentin L. Cook.
Father Massa described the request as coming out of a growing respect between Catholics and Mormons, which began under the leadership of the late Gordon B. Hinckley, longtime president of the Latter-day Saints.
During Hinckley's 13-year tenure as president, he met with the current and former bishops of Salt Lake City. And Chicago Cardinal Francis E. George, president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, sent condolences when Hinckley died in January.
"I think these developments have prepared us to begin a new phase in our relationship," Father Massa said.
Although media representatives of the Latter-day Saints did not respond to a request for comment on the papal prayer service April 18, a statement on "respect for diversity of faiths" was posted on the church's Web site the same day as the New York meeting.
"Members of the (Latter-day Saints) church do not view fellow believers around the world as adversaries or competitors, but as partners in the many causes for good in the world," the statement said, noting the church's cooperation with Catholic Relief Services in efforts to assist victims of famine and natural disasters.
CRS is the U.S. bishops' overseas relief and development agency.
"It is important to note that interfaith cooperation does not require doctrinal compromise," the statement added. "It is necessary to maintain a separation between charitable efforts and doctrinal tenets, while at the same time sharing a mutual concern for those in need.
"People of good faith do not need to have the exact same beliefs in order to accomplish great things in the service of their fellow human beings." it said.
In recent years the Mormon church sometimes has joined Catholic officials in initiatives both churches supported, such as opposition to same-sex marriage.
However, a Vatican ruling in 2001 that required Mormons who became Catholics to receive a full baptism rather than a conditional one was seen by some as questioning whether members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints were Christians.
But then-Bishop George H. Neiderauer, who headed the Salt Lake City Diocese at that time, said the Vatican decision "should not be understood as either judging or measuring a spiritual relationship between Jesus Christ and the LDS church."
"As we know, the LDS church baptizes all its new members who were previously baptized in any other church," said Bishop Neiderauer, who is now archbishop of San Francisco. "That practice indicated that the LDS church regards its own baptism as accomplishing something which is substantially different from that of all other baptismal rites."
The Vatican ruling, he said, "indicates that the Catholic Church also recognizes that LDS baptism is substantially different from Roman Catholic baptism."
The Vatican commentary on the ruling called for continued Catholic-Mormon cooperation, dialogue and growth in understanding.
IN a word: WHY? Mormons worship a different god from the Roman Catholics. What is the point?
What better way to begin evangelization to the Mormons.
As the article indicated, “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”. Catholics and Mormons do share common beliefs about morality, homosexual marriages, abortion, and denigration of the traditional family. Muslims and Christians frequently cooperate on such matters before the United Nations, fighting against liberal NGO influence to redefine families or require abortion services. They also cooperate in getting aid to needy persons, especially in disaster situations where one church might have more access to the people than another church. Most religions know if they give their aid to the government, much or all of it will never make it to the people who really need it. So groups cooperate to do good or inhibit the spread of evil without necessarily compromising their doctrinal differences.
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“Members of the (Latter-day Saints) church do not view fellow believers around the world as adversaries or competitors, but as partners in the many causes for good in the world,” the statement said, noting the church's cooperation with Catholic Relief Services in efforts to assist victims of famine and natural disasters.
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Fantastic.
Ain’t it great.
What???
Really? Which “different god” do Mormons worship?
What “different God”?
One who is fairer. One who is more comprehensible. Who still loves His children enough to continue to communicate with us. One who actually expects us to keep His commandments and emulate His Son, rather than just shouting “I’m saved.” One who is willing to impart authority to act in His name to His faithful children. One who has prepared a way for all mankind to be saved, not just those lucky enough to hear about Christ in their own lifetime. One who is anxious to make His children literally heirs to all He has.
Now I’ve gone and done it.
Agreed.
We definitely have a different understanding of the nature of God. The trinitarian God versus the understanding of God the Father, His Son Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost as three separate beings is different.
The Catholics definitely claim that authority from the same source Mormons do, i.e. Peter and ultimately Jesus Christ.
One who has prepared a way for all mankind to be saved, not just those lucky enough to hear about Christ in their own lifetime.
I have it on good Catholic FReeper authority that Catholics do believe that those who have not heard of the Savior can be saved without baptism.
You flamethrower! :-)
You are so right. I, a Mormon, have actually spent a fair amount of time working closely with Catholics on just those things.
Is that the “baptism by desire” that I was reading about the other day?
As to your other points, I wasn’t really thinking about Catholics when I wrote my post. I was thinking about the usual horde of Mormon bashers, whom, I think, are not Catholics.
That is quite true, we do have a true understanding of the Nature of God, the Nature of Jesus Christ and the Nature of the Holy Ghost. It is a wonderful thing.
I believe so. If a person would have accepted Jesus if they had the chance, then they are saved. It sounds very much like our beliefs except we believe someone must perform a proxy baptism for them. That’s really the only difference as I understand it.
I wrote that post on a whim. I feel like I’m chumming.
Two religions can share all kinds of beliefs. But if they do not worship the same God, it seems contradictory to me.
The Mormon concept of “God” and the Evangelical Protestant concept of “God” are not the same. There is a significant difference in the concept of the Trinity that is irreconcilable.
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