Posted on 05/10/2008 12:31:50 AM PDT by sevenbak
I think you mean wHOSE thread is that?
1. Jesus had to be born a spirit by the spiritual Heavenly Mother and did not exist for eternity. The question un answered is – Who gave birth to Jesus’ father?
2. The devil is Jesus’ brother who wanted to save the world himself.
3. Although mormons claim that Jesus was referred to as the God YHWH in the OT, did not become a God until after his time on earth – a contradiction in their theology.
4. Oh course, no explanation of mormon polytheism would be complete without the misrepresentation of John 1:1
5. Jesus is made into a subordinate god, in a fashion similar to Arian doctrine.
6. Where does this teaching of preexistence come from? “Before time began the soul was without a body, an archetype, the heavenly man pure in spirit in paradise, yet longing after the archetype, God. Some of the pure spirits descended into bodies and lost their purity” (Plato and the Stoics philosophy).
7. Orson Pratt said,” that before men and women are born on earth as babies, their spirits are adult size in heaven. When they are born, their Spirits are compressed, which causes a loss in memory ”(Journal of Discourses vol.16 pp.333-334) The Mormon Church teaches that our spirits forget what happened to them when placed into a body (Gospel Principles, p. 11). Therefore, Jesus could not teach on what he said he saw and knew about God, since those memories were lost.
8. Madame Blavatsky of the Occult religion of Theosophy called Christ the brother of Satan. Is it a coincidence that Joseph Smith taught the same thing?
9. According to Mormonism what did Lucifer propose that made him fall? Mormonism substitutes works for grace instead of works springing from grace through faith as the Bible teaches. “Therefore, acting alone, the grace of Christ is not sufficient for salvation. The works of man -- the ordinances of salvation, the deeds of service and acts of charity and mercy -- are necessary for salvation...” (By Grace Are We Saved: The necessity of God's grace in addition to man's good works, 1989 ed., p. 70)
“The works of man -- the ordinances of salvation, the deeds of service and acts of charity and mercy -- are necessary for salvation...,” “Salvation by grace alone and without works … is akin to what Lucifer proposed in preexistence.”
“As with the proposal of Lucifer in the preexistence to save all mankind, so with the doctrine of salvation by grace alone, without works, as it is taught in modern Christendom -- both concepts are false. There is no salvation in either of them. They both come from the same source; they are not of God” (What Think Ye of Salvation by Grace p. 49; cf. Robert Millet, p. 73)
Much more to read here:
http://www.letusreason.org/LDS31.htm
Many thanks for the opportunity to point out that mormonism does not equal Christianity.
Classic paganism.
Post #3 has the link....It’s the “Why so many LDS threads” thread.
Well, there is that :)
First, Talmage tries to teach , “… some of the scenes that had been enacted in the spirit-world before the beginning of human history.” Talmage misapplies John’s writing in order to fabricate a perspective which supports mormon heresies. Two paragraphs later, Talmage quotes again, and the time frame contradicts what Talmage tried to assert in the preceeding paragraph! … "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!” If Talmage were correctly teaching of things before the beginning of human History, how is it that Satan had ‘nations to weaken’ leading to his downfall? And mormonism is rife with such goobledegoop contradictions.
That’s a keeper! ... loading the fish in the tube, plotting a firing solution.
Really, I didn’t go to religion to find it though...I do enjoy reading & it is interesting. Have a nice day. ~P~
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