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World Top Secret: Our Earth Is Hollow! [OPEN THREAD]
ourhollowearth.com ^ | Rodney M. Cluff

Posted on 05/14/2008 6:26:21 PM PDT by P-Marlowe

World Top Secret: Our Earth Is Hollow!

About the Author...

RODNEY M. CLUFF, author of World Top Secret: Our Earth Is Hollow! was born and raised in the American colony of Colonia Juarez in northern Mexico. He became interested in the Hollow Earth Theory at the age of 16 while working on a New Mexico farm where the farm manager told the workers of the theory. He thought, What an ideal place for the Lord to hide the Lost Tribes of Israel!


After graduating from high school, Mr. Cluff served a full-time mission for the LDS Church in Mexico where he met his wife. One year after his release, they were married in the Arizona Temple and now have five lovely children and nine lovelier grandchildren!

They moved to Phoenix, Arizona, and one day Mr. Cluff noticed an advertisement of Raymond Bernard's book, The Hollow Earth in a tabloid newspaper. He sent for it and thereby began many years of study and writing which has led to the present work. Today, Mr. Cluff works as a computer programmer/analyst, and continues his research into evidences for hollow planets as a hobby.

He firmly believes: OUR EARTH IS HOLLOW! Backed with scientific evidence, including satellite photos of the polar holes, analysis of the observations of polar explorers, analysis of earthquake data and much more--coupled with evidence from the scriptures that the Lost Tribes of Israel are now FOUND within the Hollow of Our Earth, he presents his argument in favor of the Hollow Earth Theory.


It is his hope that someday, he may have the privilege of visiting his cousins of the Ten Tribes in the North Countries of the Hollow Earth! The author's own ancestry is of Israelitish origin, of the Tribe of Ephraim, and can be traced back to the Exile of the Ten Tribes from Palestine when they were carried captive into Assyria in 721 B.C.

The Ten Tribes were held captive for over a century by the Assyrians, but then escaped over the Caucasus mountains sometime before Babylon conquered Assyria in 605 B.C. They made their home in the region of the Crimea and the Steppe of Russia just north of the Black Sea up until the first century B.C. While there, they were ruled by an illustrious leader named Odin. The Roman armies threatened to conquer the region so his ancestors, because of their fierce love of freedom and independence, determined to migrate. From their custom of burying their dead in burial mounds, their migrations have been traced from the Black Sea up the valley of the river Dnieper in Russia to the Baltic Sea and from thence to northern Germany and Scandinavia.

One branch of these people became known as the Sakae or Saxons and settled in Northern Germany. Shortly after the Romans left the British Isles in the fourth century A.D., certain Celtic tribes of the British Isles invited the Engles, Saxons, and Jutes (who had previously raided the east coast of England as pirates) to bring their bands over and help defeat other Celts. From the eighth to the eleventh century they were known as the Scandinavian Vikings. They became the most volatile seapower and military force in Europe. They often attacked coastal areas with fleets that ran into the hundreds of ships and highly organized armies of several thousand. The French became weary of being looted each harvest season and so they invited the Vikings to accept a large section of France and raise their own crops. The Norsemen agreed and the territory became known as Normandy, or loved of the Norsemen.

The Author's Clough-Cluff forefathers were of the Saxon Vikings who settled Normandy in France. They came to England with William The Conqueror in 1066 A.D. In the distribution of lands among his officers, a large estate fell to one CLOUGH in Yorkshire. This estate has been transmitted from father to son until the present time and is known as the Esquire Clough Estate, and is situated about 26 miles from the old city of York, from which the Pilgrim Fathers sailed in 1620 for the New World.


In the year 1635, fifteen years after the first Pilgrims immigrated to America, at about the age of l9 to 2l, John Clough with his brother sailed from London, England on the Clipper ship The Elizabeth. Upon arriving in America, John Clough settled in Massachusetts. One of his descendants, David Cluff, changed the spelling of his last name when he joined The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (commonly known as the Mormons) in 1830. Therefore, all Cluff's in the world, to this author's knowledge, are descendants of this David Cluff, whose ancestry can be traced back through the Saxon Vikings to the Tribe of Ephraim of the House of Israel.

From the Author...

As a young man, I had two favorite subjects, science and religion. In my study, it became my conviction that ultimately science and religion will become one and the same, science being the study of God's creation; and religion consisting of the revelations of God to mankind. Both are ultimately manifestations of the truth of all things given to man by God in His infinite kindness and love to bring about the happiness of His children. It is from the Book of Mormon, an ancient text of scripture written by ancient American prophets of God that I gained the desire to obtain the object of both true religion and true science: the search for the truth of all things. The ancient American prophet of the Book of Mormon concluded this book of scripture with a perfect scientific test anyone can perform on that book to know it is of God. Moroni wrote 421 A.D.:


"Behold, I would exhort you that when ye shall read these things, if it be wisdom in God that ye should read them, that ye would remember how merciful the Lord hath been unto the children of men, from the creation of Adam even down until the time that ye shall receive these things, and ponder it in your hearts.

"And when ye shall receive these things, I would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things are not true; and if ye shall ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it unto you, by the power of the Holy Ghost.


"And by the power of the Holy Ghost ye may know the truth of all things."

It is by application of this scientific test to that book of ancient American scripture that I came to a knowledge that it is of God, because God did answer my prayer and let me know by the power of the Holy Ghost of its truthfulness. Millions of Latter-day Saints have performed this same test and received the same answer of the divinity of this book. Therefore, it could be said that Mormonism is a scientific religion. The acquisition of this one precious truth has given me the impulse to discover the ultimate: the truth of all things. And my search has not been in vain. In fact, my search is a much more efficient one because my hits in the dark are much more infrequent when I have the power of the Holy Ghost to lighten the way to the next truth. Thus my search has been an exciting one and I hope some of the things I have uncovered concerning this earth of ours will be as exciting to you as it has been to me.

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The Much Anticipated Return of the Hollow Earth Thread.

Now available as an Open Thread on the Religion Forum.

For those who are interested, the E-Book is available at link

For discussion.

Link to interview with the Author.

No Personal Attacks.

1 posted on 05/14/2008 6:26:23 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe

2 posted on 05/14/2008 6:28:48 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: P-Marlowe

So everything on or above the surface falls towards the center, but everything at the center floats. That makes sense.


3 posted on 05/14/2008 6:29:27 PM PDT by allmost
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To: SunkenCiv

Hollow Ping!


4 posted on 05/14/2008 6:30:08 PM PDT by Berosus (Supports the troops, bring them home -- from the Balkans.)
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To: P-Marlowe

Edgar Rice Burroghs wrote a number of books about this (Pellucidar) almost a hundred years ago.


5 posted on 05/14/2008 6:30:10 PM PDT by Radix (The Army Times will not let me post "their images" of OUR Troops on Free Republic)
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To: greyfoxx39; colorcountry; Pan_Yans Wife; MHGinTN; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; Osage Orange; ...

Ping.


6 posted on 05/14/2008 6:30:33 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: trisham

Here’s that Ping I promised you. :-)


7 posted on 05/14/2008 6:32:13 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe

Very old stuff. The long ago Admiral Byrd stories of an entrance at the South Pole used to find their way into ads in Argosy magazine.


8 posted on 05/14/2008 6:32:20 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: P-Marlowe
No secret, Everybody is aware of it
9 posted on 05/14/2008 6:32:57 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Holy State or Holy King - Or Holy People's Will - Have no truck with the senseless thing)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Where is the Tooth Fairy and all that Abiotic Oil?


10 posted on 05/14/2008 6:33:42 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: Mr. Mojo

I’ll take an acre lot in the Earth’s shell sub-division, water front preferred on the outer hollow lake.

Any idea what magma insurance runs?


11 posted on 05/14/2008 6:33:53 PM PDT by acw011 (Great Goooogly Mooogly!)
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To: P-Marlowe
An interesting concept.

Except that there really weren't "ten lost tribes" descendants of all the tribes live in Israel today.

12 posted on 05/14/2008 6:34:00 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A good marriage is like a casserole, only those responsible for it really know what goes into it.)
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To: acw011

Oh, and I’ll need easy access to the polar opening for my commute.


13 posted on 05/14/2008 6:35:10 PM PDT by acw011 (Great Goooogly Mooogly!)
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To: P-Marlowe

Soooo, if the polar opening is at the bottom, didn’t all of them fall out by now?
Sucked the liberal brains outa their hollow heads?
That would ‘splain it!
Seems like hollow stuff from hollow brains.


14 posted on 05/14/2008 6:36:43 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (fffffFRrrreeeeepppeeee!)
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To: Mr. Mojo; Fred Nerks

I’ve never heard of this theory before so I have no opinions on it - didn’t even read the whole article yet, LOL. I can’t escape the fact that the diagram you’ve posted though looks so much like Atlantis. There has got to be something about this set-up - the rings, water, land between, etc... It shows up over and over, and not just in Atlantean Circles (meaning those talking about Atlantis).

FReeper Fred Nerks posted some photos a few months back that show this same circular design in some places in Europe/Middle East that can still be seen to this day.

Whether this is something akin to a collective consciousness type thing, or otherwise, it’s quite interesting to me.


15 posted on 05/14/2008 6:36:57 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (The LibertyRocks Blog - http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com & http://www.LibertyRocks.us)
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To: P-Marlowe

There’s an opening to the hollow core right on the floor on the side of my bed. In the morning when I get up I carefully put both feet on the side of the bed and jump out a little so as not to fall into the hole. So far it has worked and the hole has not gotten any bigger but I notice it disappears after I successfully make the jump and look back.

Do you suppose the opening is opportunistic? I have noticed socks missing every once in a while.


16 posted on 05/14/2008 6:37:15 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: acw011

What kind of price range are you looking at? Are you pre-approved? :)


17 posted on 05/14/2008 6:37:27 PM PDT by allmost
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To: P-Marlowe
Guy needs to hook up with Mel
18 posted on 05/14/2008 6:40:49 PM PDT by Domandred (McCain's 'R' is a typo that has never been corrected)
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To: P-Marlowe

For the world is hollow and I have touched the sky!


19 posted on 05/14/2008 6:44:07 PM PDT by Crazieman (Vote Juan McAmnesty in 2008! Because freedom abroad is more important than freedom at home!)
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To: Domandred

Hitler supposedly bought into this theory and attempted to spy on the British fleet using a telescope aimed into the sky.


20 posted on 05/14/2008 6:44:10 PM PDT by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: allmost

Ha, nice.

Yeah, I’m pre-approved, on the outer shell.

Actually just got an offer accepted on a new house, so now all I gotta do is sell this current house in 60 days... I’m currently in a 1st time buyer home - 250k (Madistan) which seems to be a moving market. Fingers crossed, anyway.

I’ve never heard of this theory or anything like it, the graphic just reminded me of the many sub-division plots I’ve looked at over the last 2 months.


21 posted on 05/14/2008 6:45:39 PM PDT by acw011 (Great Goooogly Mooogly!)
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To: P-Marlowe

BTTT


22 posted on 05/14/2008 6:48:19 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: P-Marlowe

“Symmes Monument” in Symmes Park on Third Street in Downtown Hamilton commemorates Captain John Cleves Symmes and his “Hollow Earth Theory”. The theorist, who died in 1829, was a nephew of Judge John Cleves Symmes (1741-1814) who promoted settlement in this region after buying land north of the Ohio River between the Little Miami and Great Miami Rivers. Captain Symmes performed daring feats of bravery in the Battles of Lundy's Lane. As a Philosopher and the originator of Symmes Theory of Concentric Spheres and Polar Voids, Captain Symmes contended that the Earth is hollow and habitable within. Although he was generally ridiculed for his beliefs, Admiral Byrd and Sir Edmund Haley shared them. The monument was erected in the 1840's by Americus Symmes to mark the gravesite of his father. At the abandonment of Hamilton's old burial ground, only the monument to Captain Symmes remained. It's restoration in 1991 was a bicentennial Gift to the City of Hamilton from Historic Hamilton, Incorporated. Restoration was completed by Edgar Tafur, Sculptor.
I grew up a few miles from this town. Symmes was a pretty famous figure in the history of this area. SW Ohio.
23 posted on 05/14/2008 6:49:33 PM PDT by Tainan (Talk is cheap. Silence is golden. All I got is brass...lotsa brass.)
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To: P-Marlowe
I am not familiar with this hollow-earth idea.

Are these claims being made based on religious belief or scientific evidence?

24 posted on 05/14/2008 6:50:28 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: P-Marlowe

Here I thought it was the Democrats, as a group, who were deeply insane...


25 posted on 05/14/2008 6:50:35 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Don't cheer for Obama too hard - the krinton syndicate is moving back into the WH.)
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To: P-Marlowe

World Top Secret: Our Earth The Author's Head Is Hollow!

...... and it's not a secret anymore.

(P., nothing personal)

26 posted on 05/14/2008 6:50:42 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
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To: P-Marlowe
Would you like to receive a free copy of The Book of Mormon?

No.....

evidence from the scriptures that the Lost Tribes of Israel are now FOUND within the Hollow of Our Earth,

Drop down the hole and say hi then...........Sheesh, doesn't he have a rope?

27 posted on 05/14/2008 6:51:45 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Bill & Hillary Clinton are the human equivalent of the herpes virus.....)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Even more interesting are some automatic questions in regard to this assinine idea: Like, where does their daylight come from; photosynthesis, Vitamin D, oxygen.ventilation and other such penny-ante troublesome little items?


28 posted on 05/14/2008 6:52:39 PM PDT by Tucker39 (Darwin, Huxley, Sagan, et al began believing in God and Creation after 5 seconds in Hell!)
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To: acw011
You should at the inner shell before committing. It's Hot! We haven't been affected by the rest of the real estate bubble due to the crab people and all...
29 posted on 05/14/2008 6:52:58 PM PDT by allmost
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To: P-Marlowe
I always wondered, why don't Australians fall off?
30 posted on 05/14/2008 6:53:17 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Leftists stop arguing when they see your patriotism, your logic, your CAR-15 and your block of C4.)
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To: P-Marlowe

Reports show that plant and animal live that resides down there is in danger due to global warming.


31 posted on 05/14/2008 6:54:05 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: Coyoteman
Are these claims being made based on religious belief or scientific evidence?

Neither. Just fanciful thinking. ....often chemically aided.

32 posted on 05/14/2008 6:55:12 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Coyoteman
I am not familiar with this hollow-earth idea.

Watch the interview of the author. The link is at the top of the thread.

33 posted on 05/14/2008 7:06:23 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Crazieman

Star Trek. But that poor fellow died, didn’t he?


34 posted on 05/14/2008 7:06:56 PM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: MindBender26

Well duh... Velcro.


35 posted on 05/14/2008 7:07:33 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Tainan; xzins; blue-duncan
I grew up a few miles from this town. Symmes was a pretty famous figure in the history of this area. SW Ohio.

Xzins, are you familiar with Symmes?

36 posted on 05/14/2008 7:08:02 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe

This is pretty nutty, but not as nutty as some of the crap on the anti-big Oil threads!!!


37 posted on 05/14/2008 7:09:45 PM PDT by Sunnyflorida (Drill in the Gulf of Mexico/Anwar & we can join OPEC!!! || Write in Thomas Sowell for President.)
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To: P-Marlowe
Beware of sleestack.
38 posted on 05/14/2008 7:11:08 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: P-Marlowe
I am not familiar with this hollow-earth idea.

Watch the interview of the author. The link is at the top of the thread.

Bunch of nonsense. Do folks actually believe this stuff? And if so, why?

39 posted on 05/14/2008 7:11:56 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Coyoteman

Being a long-time fan of Art Bell... I’m well acquainted with this stuff. There’s nuthin’ quite so much fun on those all-night drives.


40 posted on 05/14/2008 7:13:29 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: P-Marlowe
:^)
41 posted on 05/14/2008 7:13:52 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: P-Marlowe

In the 1960’s many magazines had adds for books on the hollow earth theory.


42 posted on 05/14/2008 7:14:00 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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That explains that echoey sound the ground makes when I’m out walking.

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43 posted on 05/14/2008 7:16:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Profile updated Monday, April 28, 2008)
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To: Coyoteman
Bunch of nonsense. Do folks actually believe this stuff? And if so, why?

This is a resurrected Thread. It was pulled before because it was supposedly an attempt at Baiting a certain religious sect. I'll let you guess which one.

FWIW, I will post a paragraph from another thread which might help explain it.

O.B. Huntington:

The inspiration of God caused men to hunt for a new continent until Columbus discovered it. Men have lost millions of dollars, and hundreds of lives to find a country beyond the North Pole; and they will yet find that country -- a warm, fruitful country, and inhabited by the ten tribes of Israel, a country divided by a river on one side of which lives the half tribe of Manasseh, which is more numerous than all the others. So said the Prophet. At the same time, he described the shape of the earth at the poles as being a rounded elongation and drew a diagram in this form; (see graphic at link) which any one can readily see will allow the sun's rays to fall so near perpendicular to the center that part of the earth may be warmed and made fruitful. He quoted scripture and proof of his theory which says that "the earth flieth upon its wings in the midst of the creations of God," and said that there was a semblance in the form of the earth that gave rise to the saying.

44 posted on 05/14/2008 7:18:40 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe

hollow earth was also part of nazi cosmology


45 posted on 05/14/2008 7:20:22 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Radix

Bulwer-Lytton wrote a book about a hollow-earth people a hundred and fifty or so years ago.


46 posted on 05/14/2008 7:21:07 PM PDT by Hiddigeigei (Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder. [Arnold Toynbee])
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To: Tucker39
Like, where does their daylight come from; photosynthesis, Vitamin D, oxygen.ventilation and other such penny-ante troublesome little items?

IIRC (and please cut me a little slack if I don't. It has been 20 years since I read about this) There is a small sun in the middle of the earth that takes care of the light problem, plants take care of the oxygen problem. Not sure how they got around the lack of rain. And there are vents to the outer crust.

47 posted on 05/14/2008 7:21:09 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A good marriage is like a casserole, only those responsible for it really know what goes into it.)
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To: fso301
hollow earth was also part of nazi cosmology

Reducto ad Hitlerum fallacy.

48 posted on 05/14/2008 7:22:29 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: MindBender26

In space, there really are no poles, as there is no up or down. So, why is it we mark the equator as the equator? What if what we consider the equator was actually the points between the “north” and “south” poles? :)


49 posted on 05/14/2008 7:24:03 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: P-Marlowe
This isn't a personal attack.
But it seems like we are seeing more theories posted here that fall to a low level of intellect.

People supporting polygamy, people who think the moon landings were faked and that people live there, this thread, etc.
And it's not the posting of thread, it's some responses that seem to be open that the idea could actually be true.

These kind of things make conservatives look very bad and fit undesirable stereotypes.

50 posted on 05/14/2008 7:24:23 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ("We have to drain the swamp" George Bush, September 2001)
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