[Jo Nuvark]

[... The question presumes that the universe was designed—which we do not know—whereas encyclopediae have been documented as to their design by an intelligent source...]

Chaos is observable and so is intelligent design.

I like to ask people to look at the complexity of
their own hand. Then ask how they continue to believe
there is no designer behind its intricately exquisite
design, form and function.

[Das Outsider]

I like to ask people to look at the complexity of their own hand. Then ask how they continue to believe there is no designer behind its intricately exquisite design, form and function.

Your opponent would argue that such is merely phenomenological.