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JESUS THE CHRIST CHAPTER 1 (LDS Theology) (open)
lds,org ^ | James E. Talmage

Posted on 06/13/2008 1:01:20 PM PDT by Revelation 911

JESUS THE CHRIST CHAPTER 1 INTRODUCTION

It is a matter of history that, at or near the beginning of what has since come to be known as the Christian era, the Man Jesus, surnamed the Christ, was born in Bethlehem of Judea. The principal data as to His birth, life, and death are so well attested as to be reasonably indisputable; they are facts of record, and are accepted as essentially authentic by the civilized world at large. True, there are diversities of deduction based on alleged discrepancies in the records of the past as to circumstantial details; but such differences are of strictly minor importance, for none of them nor all taken together cast a shadow of rational doubt upon the historicity of the earthly existence of the Man known in literature as Jesus of Nazareth.

As to who and what He was there are dissensions of grave moment dividing the opinions of men; and this divergence of conception and belief is most pronounced upon those matters to which the greatest importance attaches. The solemn testimonies of millions dead and of millions living unite in proclaiming Him as divine, the Son of the Living God, the Redeemer and Savior of the human race, the Eternal Judge of the souls of men, the Chosen and Anointed of the Father -- in short, the Christ. Others there are who deny His Godhood while extolling the transcendent qualities of His unparalleled and unapproachable Manhood.

To the student of history this Man among men stands first, foremost, and alone, as a directing personality in the world's progression. Mankind has never produced a leader to rank with Him. Regarded solely as a historic personage He is unique. Judged by the standard of human estimation, Jesus of Nazareth is supreme among men by reason of the excellence of His personal character, the simplicity, beauty, and genuine worth of His precepts, and the influence of His example and doctrines in the advancement of the race. To these distinguishing characteristics of surpassing greatness the devout Christian soul adds an attribute that far exceeds the sum of all the others -- the divinity of Christ's origin and the eternal reality of His status as Lord and God.

Christian and unbeliever alike acknowledge His supremacy as a Man, and respect the epoch-making significance of His birth. Christ was born in the meridian of time; and His life on earth marked at once the culmination of the past and the inauguration of an era distinctive in human hope, endeavor, and achievement. His advent determined a new order in the reckoning of the years; and by common consent the centuries antedating His birth have been counted backward from the pivotal event and are designated accordingly. The rise and fall of dynasties, the birth and dissolution of nations, all the cycles of history as to war and peace, as to prosperity and adversity, as to health and pestilence, seasons of plenty and of famine, the awful happenings of earthquake and storm, the triumphs of invention and discovery, the epochs of man's development in godliness and the long periods of his dwindling in unbelief -- all the occurrences that make history -- are chronicled throughout Christendom by reference to the year before or after the birth of Jesus Christ.

His earthly life covered a period of thirty-three years; and of these but three were spent by Him as an acknowledged Teacher openly engaged in the activities of public ministry. He was brought to a violent death before He had attained what we now regard as the age of manhood's prime. As an individual He was personally known to but few; and His fame as a world character became general only after His death.

Brief account of some of His words and works has been preserved to us; and this record, fragmentary and incomplete though it be, is rightly esteemed as the world's greatest treasure. The earliest and most extended history of His mortal existence is embodied within the compilation of Scriptures known as the New Testament; indeed but little is said of Him by secular historians of His time. Few and short as are the allusions to Him made by non-scriptural writers in the period immediately following that of His ministry, enough is found to corroborate the sacred record as to the actuality and period of Christ's earthly existence.

No adequate biography of Jesus as Boy and Man has been or can be written, for the sufficing reason that a fullness of data is lacking. Nevertheless, man never lived of whom more has been said and sung, none to whom is devoted a greater proportion of the world's literature. He is extolled by Christian, Mohammedan and Jew, by skeptic and infidel, by the world's greatest poets, philosophers, statesmen, scientists, and historians. Even the profane sinner in the foul sacrilege of his oath acclaims the divine supremacy of Him whose name he desecrates.

The purpose of the present treatise is that of considering the life and mission of Jesus as the Christ. In this undertaking we are to be guided by the light of both ancient and modern scriptures; and, thus led, we shall discover, even in the early stages of our course, that the word of God as revealed in latter days is effective in illuming and making plain the Holy Writ of ancient times, and this, in many matters of the profoundest import.

Instead of beginning our study with the earthly birth of the Holy Babe of Bethlehem, we shall consider the part taken by the Firstborn Son of God in the primeval councils of heaven, at the time when He was chosen and ordained to be the Savior of the unborn race of mortals, the Redeemer of a world then in its formative stages of development. We are to study Him as the Creator of the world, as the Word of Power, through whom the purposes of the Eternal Father were realized in the preparation of the earth for the abode of His myriad spirit-children during the appointed period of their mortal probation. Jesus Christ was and is Jehovah, the God of Adam and of Noah, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the God of Israel, the God at whose instance the prophets of the ages have spoken, the God of all nations, and He who shall yet reign on earth as King of kings and Lord of lords.

His wondrous yet natural birth, His immaculate life in the flesh, and His voluntary death as a consecrated sacrifice for the sins of mankind, shall claim our reverent attention; as shall also His redeeming service in the world of disembodied spirits; His literal resurrection from bodily death to immortality; His several appearings to men and His continued ministry as the Resurrected Lord on both continents; the reestablishment of His Church through His personal presence and that of the Eternal Father in the latter days; and His coming to His temple in the current dispensation. All these developments in the ministration of the Christ are already of the past. Our proposed course of investigation will lead yet onward, into the future concerning which the word of divine revelation is of record. We shall consider the conditions incident to the Lord's return in power and glory to inaugurate the dominion of the Kingdom of Heaven on earth, and to usher in the predicted Millennium of peace and righteousness. And yet beyond we shall follow Him, through the post-Millennial conflict between the powers of heaven and the forces of hell, to the completion of His victory over Satan, sin, and death, when He shall present the glorified earth and its sanctified hosts, spotless and celestialized, unto the Father.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints affirms her possession of divine authority for the use of the sacred name, Jesus Christ, as the essential part of her distinctive designation. In view of this exalted claim, it is pertinent to inquire as to what special or particular message the Church has to give to the world concerning the Redeemer and Savior of the race, and as to what she has to say in justification of her solemn affirmation, or in vindication of her exclusive name and title. As we proceed with our study, we shall find that among the specific teachings of the Church respecting the Christ are these:

(1) The unity and continuity of His mission in all ages -- this of necessity involving the verity of His preexistence and foreordination. (2) The fact of His antemortal Godship. (3) The actuality of His birth in the flesh as the natural issue of divine and mortal parentage. (4) The reality of His death and physical resurrection, as a result of which the power of death shall be eventually overcome. (5) The literalness of the atonement wrought by Him, including the absolute requirement of individual compliance with the laws and ordinances of His gospel as the means by which salvation may be attained. (6) The restoration of His Priesthood and the reestablishment of His Church in the current age, which is verily the Dispensation of the Fullness of Times. (7) The certainty of His return to earth in the near future, with power and great glory, to reign in Person and bodily presence as Lord and King.


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Unsure if enough time has passed per mods instruction here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2029582/posts?page=72#72
1 posted on 06/13/2008 1:01:22 PM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Religion Moderator

seeking your ruling here - has enough time passed to post this as open?


2 posted on 06/13/2008 1:02:31 PM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Revelation 911

Don’t you find all these “extra” rules getting annoying?

It seems to me either you can post or not.
Comment or not.


3 posted on 06/13/2008 1:13:56 PM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: Revelation 911

Here’s a Catholic who really finds this a very inspirational book.


4 posted on 06/13/2008 1:28:50 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

Wow, you have an interesting interpretation of who Christ is then.

I think perhaps your priest would be concerned about your understanding of the Savior.


5 posted on 06/13/2008 1:43:40 PM PDT by colorcountry (To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Revelation 911

(1) The unity and continuity of His mission in all ages — this of necessity involving the verity of His preexistence and foreordination.

Jesus “preexisted as The Word of God..He was God..and not a “spirit child”

Jhn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Jhn 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.

Jhn 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Jhn 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. John 1:1-4

Jesus came to save us..that was His mission..the be Lord and Savior..

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved John 3:16, 17

(2) The fact of His antemortal Godship

Is this as He was man is..As He is now man can become ???

What blasphemy...

Jhn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Jhn 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.

Jhn 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Jhn 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. John 1:1-4

(3) The actuality of His birth in the flesh as the natural issue of divine and mortal parentage.

Blasphemy.....Mary was a VIRGIN..she did NOT have sex with any man mortal or immortal..

Mormons just love to attack Catholics about the VIRGIN Mary...

Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Isaiah 7:14

hardly a Godly sign if illicit sex was involved..

4) The reality of His death and physical resurrection, as a result of which the power of death shall be eventually overcome.

The power of death was overcome right then...not will be eventually

Mat 9:23 And when Jesus came into the ruler’s house, and saw the minstrels and the people making a noise,

Mat 9:24 He said unto them, Give place: for the maid is not dead, but sleepeth. And they laughed him to scorn.

Mat 9:25 But when the people were put forth, he went in, and took her by the hand, and the maid arose.

Mat 9:26 And the fame hereof went abroad into all that land Matthew 9:23-26

It wasnt a secret that Jesus had power over death..

Hbr 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

Hbr 2:15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage. Hebrew2 2:14, 15

1Co 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

1Cr 15:55 O death, where [is] thy sting? O grave, where [is] thy victory?

1Cr 15:56 The sting of death [is] sin; and the strength of sin [is] the law.

1Cr 15:57 But thanks [be] to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. 1 Corinthians 15:54-57

(5) The literalness of the atonement wrought by Him, including the absolute requirement of individual compliance with the laws and ordinances of His gospel as the means by which salvation may be attained.

Whatever this gibbly gook means it does not refer to the Gospel of the Jesus Christ of the Bible..

Jhn 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. John 3:15-18

And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Mark 16:15, 16

(6) The restoration of His Priesthood and the reestablishment of His Church in the current age, which is verily the Dispensation of the Fullness of Times.

Well, we know that this never happened...

Knowing the Times Table will verily get you closer to God than this..

“His priesthood” was His alone...

And there never has been a reestablishment of the church ...there never haqs been any need to and never will..

And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Matthew 16:18

(7) The certainty of His return to earth in the near future, with power and great glory, to reign in Person and bodily presence as Lord and King

But He’s not going to be coming to the United States to set up His kingdom..

“Bodily presense” ?????????

Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven. Acts 1:11


6 posted on 06/13/2008 1:51:29 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: svcw
Don’t you find all these “extra” rules getting annoying?

It seems to me either you can post or not. Comment or not.

moreso, asking legitimate questions and not having them replied -

still no clarification on how long we have to wait to repost an ecumenical thread as an open thread -

7 posted on 06/13/2008 2:26:14 PM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Revelation 911; Religion Moderator

RM may be on a break. Even mods have a life. ;)


8 posted on 06/13/2008 3:50:39 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tagline on vacation during the grand experiment.)
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To: Revelation 911

Why, thank you for posting this again. I love to read about my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

Have a wonderful weekend!


9 posted on 06/13/2008 3:51:09 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Official FR PITA)
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To: Old Mountain man
Have a wonderful weekend!

you too -

10 posted on 06/13/2008 4:16:31 PM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Revelation 911

Yes.


11 posted on 06/13/2008 9:21:42 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: greyfoxx39

LOL!


12 posted on 06/13/2008 9:22:21 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Tennessee Nana; All
So, what do you think happened before “in the beginning”?
13 posted on 06/14/2008 12:42:04 AM PDT by fproy2222 (Jesus is the Christ.)
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To: Revelation 911; All
Rev, thanks for posting this. I actually didn't post the introduction, so this isn't a duplicate, there's nothing to ask the mod about. The next 5 or 6 chapters are all open from when I posted them, so here's the link if it saves anyone time.

Thanks again for posting Talmage and our beliefs of the Savior of the world.

Previous posts in this series.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 1, INTRODUCTION

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 2, PREEXISTENCE AND FOREORDINATION OF THE CHRIST.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 3, THE NEED OF A REDEEMER.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 4, THE ANTEMORTAL GODSHIP OF CHRIST.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 5, EARTHLY ADVENT OF THE CHRIST PREDICTED.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 6, THE MERIDIAN OF TIME.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 7, GABRIEL'S ANNUNCIATION OF JOHN AND OF JESUS.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 8, THE BABE of BETHLEHEM.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 9, THE BOY OF NAZARETH.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 10, IN THE WILDERNESS OF JUDEA.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 11, FROM JUDEA TO GALILEE.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 12, EARLY INCIDENTS IN OUR LORD'S PUBLIC MINISTRY.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 13, HONORED BY STRANGERS, REJECTED BY HIS OWN.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 14, CONTINUATION OF OUR LORD'S MINISTRY IN GALILEE.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 15, THE LORD OF THE SABBATH.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 16, THE CHOSEN TWELVE.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 17, THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 18, AS ONE HAVING AUTHORITY.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 19, "HE SPAKE MANY THINGS UNTO THEM IN PARABLES".

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 20, "PEACE, BE STILL"- INCIDENTS PRELIMINARY TO THE VOYAGE.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 21, THE APOSTOLIC MISSION, JESUS AGAIN IN NAZARETH.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 22, A PERIOD OF DARKENING OPPOSITION.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 23, THE TRANSFIGURATION.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 24, FROM SUNSHINE TO SHADOW.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 25, JESUS AGAIN IN JERUSALEM.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 26, OUR LORD'S MINISTRY IN PEREA AND JUDEA.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 27, CONTINUATION OF THE PEREAN AND JUDEAN MINISTRY.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 28, THE LAST WINTER AT THE FEAST OF DEDICATION.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 29, ON TO JERUSALEM.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 30, JESUS RETURNS TO THE TEMPLE DAILY.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 31, THE CLOSE OF OUR LORD'S PUBLIC MINISTRY.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 32, FURTHER INSTRUCTION TO THE APOSTLES.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 33, THE LAST SUPPER AND THE BETRAYAL.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 34, THE TRIAL AND CONDEMNATION.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 35, JESUS THE CHRIST - DEATH AND BURIAL.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 36, IN THE REALM OF DISEMBODIED SPIRITS.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 37, THE RESURRECTION AND THE ASCENSION.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 38, THE APOSTOLIC MINISTRY.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 39, MINISTRY OF THE RESURRECTED CHRIST ON THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE.

JESUS THE CHRIST - Chapter 40, THE LONG NIGHT OF APOSTASY.

14 posted on 06/14/2008 10:52:20 AM PDT by sevenbak (...Christ ministered by us, written not with ink... but in fleshy tables of the heart. 2 Cor. 3: 3)
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Rev, thanks for posting this.

youre welcome

"God is in the still small voice. In all these affidavits, indictments, it is all of the devil--all corruption. Come on! ye prosecutors! ye false swearers! All hell, boil over! Ye burning mountains, roll down your lava! for I will come out on the top at last. I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet . . . " Joseph Smith (History of the Church, Vol. 6, p. 408-409). Click here to see this quote in context.

"I told the brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by any other book." Joseph Smith (History of the Church, Vol. 4, page 461)

". . .I prophesy in the name of the Lord God of Israel, unless the United States redress the wrongs committed upon the Saints in the state of Missouri and punish the crimes committed by her officers that in a few years the government will be utterly overthrown and wasted, and there will not be so much as a potsherd left . . . " Joseph Smith (False Prophet)(History of the Church, Vol. 5, p. 394.)

"Hence, the doctrine of a plurality of Gods is as prominent in the Bible as any other doctrine. It is all over the face of the Bible . . . Paul says there are Gods many and Lords many . . . but to us there is but one God--that is pertaining to us; and he is in all and through all" (History of the Church, Vol. 6, page 474). "In the beginning, the head of the Gods called a council of the Gods; and they came together and concocted a plan to create the world and people it." Joseph Smith (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 5).

"I have always declared God to be a distinct personage, Jesus Christ a separate and distinct personage from God the Father, and the Holy Ghost was a distinct personage and a Spirit: and these three constitute three distinct personages and three Gods." Joseph Smith (Teachings of Prophet Joseph Smith p. 370).

"God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted Man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens...I say, if you were to see him to-day, you would see him like a man in form -- like yourselves, in all the person, image, and very form as a man....it is necessary that we should understand the character and being of God, and how he came to be so; for I am going to tell you how God came to be God. We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity, I will refute that idea, and will take away and do away the veil, so that you may see....and that he was once a man like us; yea, that God himself the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth the same as Jesus Christ himself did." Jospeh Smith (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p. 3).

Joseph Smith said that there are men living on the moon who dress like Quakers and live to be nearly 1000 years old. Since he was wrong about the moon, is it safe to trust him regarding the way to Heaven? Jospeh Smith (The Young Woman's Journal, Vol. 3, pages 263-264. See reprint in Mormonism -- Shadow or Reality? by Jerald and Sandra Tanner, page 4.)

15 posted on 06/15/2008 5:49:35 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Revelation 911

These have been addressed time and again on FR.


16 posted on 06/15/2008 11:05:20 PM PDT by sevenbak (Suffer me that I may speak; and after that I have spoken, mock on. - Job 21:3)
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