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Knife Crime in UK (fatherless boys take it to the streets)[Ecumenical]
Standing on my Head ^ | July 18, 2008 | Fr. Dwight Longenecker

Posted on 07/18/2008 10:04:02 AM PDT by NYer

Knife crime is at epidemic proportions in Britain's inner cities, with an attack of some kind taking place every four minutes. In London alone 21 young people have been stabbed to death this year.

A church group has come up with a new solution. It's reported here. The suggestion is that church leaders should move into crime ridden inner city areas to work with the youths and become role models since most of the boys who stab each other don't have Dads.

Whoops! problem is, since women's ordination the Anglican Church has been turned into a matriarchy remember? Nearly half of Anglican clergy are now female. Besides, the whole church for the most part, has turned its back on patriarchy in favor of feminism.

One thing the report does have right: the anarchy and youth violence in our inner cities is linked to the breakdown of the family. What nobody is daring to say is that the breakdown of the family is linked with contraception, abortion, divorce, promiscuity, homosexuality and feminsim. You can't have it both ways: first you emasculate the men, kick out the fathers, get rid of patriarchy, feminize the faith, then you wring you hands saying, "Oh dear! the young men are so nasty and violent! They should have positive role models! I wonder if those fathers we got rid of are in the attic, and can be dusted off?"

Historically, the Anglo Catholics were the ones who went into Britain's inner city slums, but those who have not already pulled out are about to. The Catholics didn't need to go into the inner city slums. They were already there.

The report also admires Catholics, recognizing the example of the Catholic priests who have moved into the slums in South American cities and got their hands dirty with the roughest and poorest of humanity. Could the positive role models of these courageous priests have anything to do with the fact that the Catholic Church reserves the priesthood to men?


TOPICS: Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: anglican; bang; catholic; episcopal; uk
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1 posted on 07/18/2008 10:04:02 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
What nobody is daring to say is that the breakdown of the family is linked with contraception, abortion, divorce, promiscuity, homosexuality and feminsim.

Bingo!

2 posted on 07/18/2008 10:04:53 AM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: NYer
Well, of course not. That would be judgmental. We all know that crime is caused by guns knives knitting needles tire irons baseball bats rocks fingernails teeth President Bush.
3 posted on 07/18/2008 10:07:49 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Tax-chick's House of Herpets. We're basking - how about you?)
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To: Tax-chick

Lol ... and that will still be true once his presidency ends.


4 posted on 07/18/2008 10:11:35 AM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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To: NYer

Even after he’s dead, probably. They’re still blaming President Reagan for AIDS.


5 posted on 07/18/2008 10:13:09 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Tax-chick's House of Herpets. We're basking - how about you?)
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To: NYer

What they’re failing to tell here, is that it’s not boys named Simon that are doing this. It’s boys named Okwai and Mohammoud who are doing this.


6 posted on 07/18/2008 10:13:30 AM PDT by Transformers
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To: NYer
What nobody is daring to say is that the breakdown of the family is linked with contraception, abortion, divorce, promiscuity, homosexuality and feminsim.

Exactly! Watching Britain fall is a precursor to watching America and Australia fall. There is a God that curses us for disobedience. Deut 11:26-28, Deut 28:all He will also bless for obedience.

Have these three nations not been tremendously blessed in the past? And are we not being cursed now? LOOK AROUND!! Floods, droughts, fires, earthquakes, hurricanes, riots, terrorism, murderous children, fatherlessness... What a punishment we have brought on our nation by our disobedience to our Father.

7 posted on 07/18/2008 10:26:46 AM PDT by Chili Girl
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To: Tax-chick

LOL! You forgot pens!


8 posted on 07/18/2008 10:27:55 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Transformers

You would be wrong about that.


9 posted on 07/18/2008 10:40:04 AM PDT by Varda
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To: trisham

You’re right. I was distracted because Bill and Anoreth were taking all the doorknobs off downstairs and talking about C-4. I need to screen their library books more carefully, I think.


10 posted on 07/18/2008 10:42:05 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Tax-chick's House of Herpets. We're basking - how about you?)
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I found this in a Brit paper. Just like here, illegitimacy is a precursor to crime.

“Births outside marriage increased year by year since the early 1970s. Over the past 10 years the proportion has risen from 12% to 41% across England and Wales as a whole.

It passed 50% in north-east England in 2000 and last year stood at 53.5%. The north-west was not far behind on 48%, but in London - where a higher proportion of young mothers were from the Muslim community - only 34.5% of children were born outside marriage.”

11 posted on 07/18/2008 10:51:59 AM PDT by Varda
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To: Tax-chick

LOL! You’ve got your hands full.


12 posted on 07/18/2008 10:52:00 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: NYer

21 in a city that size? Doesn’t seem like that much. At least not by our standards.


13 posted on 07/18/2008 11:05:02 AM PDT by DemonDeac
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To: NYer
to work with the youths and become role models since most of the boys who stab each other don't have Dads.

Don't they have BIG BROTHERS in the UK? If they don't they should get the organization.

One thing the report does have right: the anarchy and youth violence in our inner cities is linked to the breakdown of the family. What nobody is daring to say is that the breakdown of the family is linked with contraception, abortion, divorce, promiscuity, homosexuality and feminsim. You can't have it both ways: first you emasculate the men, kick out the fathers, get rid of patriarchy, feminize the faith, then you wring you hands saying, "Oh dear! the young men are so nasty and violent! They should have positive role models! I wonder if those fathers we got rid of are in the attic, and can be dusted off?"

British dads - you need to be there for your kids. Moms, you need to make sure you want to be married BEFORE having kids!! Come on, raising kids is hard - but they'll thank you later!

14 posted on 07/18/2008 11:26:54 AM PDT by MaineConservative (Charlie Summers -- an Iraqi Vet and businessman for Maine's CD-1)
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To: trisham

I’m not quite sure how this happened to me.


15 posted on 07/18/2008 11:52:44 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Tax-chick's House of Herpets. We're basking - how about you?)
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To: Varda

It says ...

“church leaders should move into crime ridden inner city areas”

... Remember, England is only 90% English. It has a large, fast-growing immigrant (third world population.)

They’ve tried those same save the children programs here in the US and they’re not all that effective. US cities are infested with crime. The Mayor of Chicago wants to call in National Guard to deal with their crime problem. The solution? Deport, deport, deport.


16 posted on 07/18/2008 11:59:38 AM PDT by Transformers
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To: Tax-chick
I’m not quite sure how this happened to me.

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Having children? I know it has something to do with a stork or a cabbage patch. That's what my parents told me, at any rate.

17 posted on 07/18/2008 12:12:42 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

No, I figured out having children after the third or fourth time. What I don’t get is how I ended up with children who dismantle the house while contemplating explosives. I also don’t know why I can’t get through the door from the kitchen to the garage, and I’m not sure I want to know!


18 posted on 07/18/2008 12:18:25 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Tax-chick's House of Herpets. We're basking - how about you?)
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To: Transformers

see post #11

I looked into this a couple weeks ago because I was curious about crime in Britain. Someone on another thread suggested as you have that the crime is not the work of indigenous youth. My impression when I vacationed there a couple years ago was that it was the indigenous English youth perpetuating many of these types of crimes. This article and the one I quote from (one of the Brit papers) suggest that my impression was probably correct. At the least, the offenders who are ID’ed as fatherless are not likely to be named Mohammed.


19 posted on 07/18/2008 12:22:50 PM PDT by Varda
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To: Tax-chick
No, I figured out having children after the third or fourth time. What I don’t get is how I ended up with children who dismantle the house while contemplating explosives. I also don’t know why I can’t get through the door from the kitchen to the garage, and I’m not sure I want to know!

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Well, that's a relief. :)

I'm guessing it's due to a combination of good genes and natural curiosity.

20 posted on 07/18/2008 12:24:18 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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