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The Great Desecration [Professor boasts of desecrating Eucharist and Koran]
Pharyngula Blog ^ | 7/24/08 | PZ Myers

Posted on 07/24/2008 8:01:47 PM PDT by AHerald

I pierced it with a rusty nail (I hope Jesus's tetanus shots are up to date). And then I simply threw it in the trash, followed by the classic, decorative items of trash cans everywhere, old coffeegrounds and a banana peel. My apologies to those who hoped for more, but the worst I can do is show my unconcerned contempt.

By the way, I didn't want to single out just the cracker, so I nailed it to a few ripped-out pages from the Qur'an and The God Delusion. They are just paper. Nothing must be held sacred. Question everything. God is not great, Jesus is not your lord, you are not disciples of any charismatic prophet. You are all human beings who must make your way through your life by thinking and learning, and you have the job of advancing humanity's knowledge by winnowing out the errors of past generations and finding deeper understanding of reality. You will not find wisdom in rituals and sacraments and dogma, which build only self-satisfied ignorance, but you can find truth by looking at your world with fresh eyes and a questioning mind.

(Excerpt) Read more at scienceblogs.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Islam; Worship
KEYWORDS: atheist; catholic; desecration; eucharist; flourh2osalt; flowerh2osalt; particularjudgment
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To: A.A. Cunningham; Religion Moderator

Now, I’ve already said I’m not getting into that here. I’ve tried to show respect for beliefs that are not my own - as well as for my fellow FReepers.

I don’t believe it was contradicted by Christ, the Apostles, or the Apostle Paul. As for the Church Fathers, I’m pretty sure that mentors of mine (John Wesley et al) would agree with me.

It would seem that, even after reading that I don’t want to show disrespect to my FRiends — you would like to bait me into an argument and I just won’t do that.


61 posted on 07/25/2008 6:12:10 AM PDT by kimmie7 (<<<---- Too surly for the hoarde.)
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To: Between the Lines
Well, the fact that you took the time to look over the article and type a post shows that either you care or you are irrational. Think about it

Most likely a temporary case of the latter. Regards, C.

62 posted on 07/25/2008 8:51:25 AM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: AHerald
It would be one thing if an employee of a private school--say, Bob Jones University--had desecrated the Eucharist.

Jimmy Akin rocks. LOL

63 posted on 07/25/2008 8:54:41 AM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: mbraynard; dighton; aculeus; martin_fierro; Tijeras_Slim
...as is mentioned in all the missiles...



True enough, a missal can become a missile,
but only if you throw it.

64 posted on 07/25/2008 8:58:59 AM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: Petronski; mbraynard; dighton; aculeus; Tijeras_Slim; mikrofon; Charles Henrickson; Ezekiel
(looking around, bewildered)

A Religion thread? Marty's on a Religion thread?

No matter. I like the decor in here. And it's nice and peaceful.

65 posted on 07/25/2008 9:13:15 AM PDT by martin_fierro (Chat is my milieu)
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To: martin_fierro; Petronski

Watch out, they take stuff seriously in here... :)


66 posted on 07/25/2008 9:18:12 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim; martin_fierro

;OD


67 posted on 07/25/2008 9:29:23 AM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: Petronski; Tijeras_Slim; martin_fierro

you hauled those two to the religion forum! LOL!!!


68 posted on 07/25/2008 10:25:30 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy

My wit is irre-frickin-sistible.


69 posted on 07/25/2008 10:29:27 AM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: Petronski

if they become regs i may drop dead!


70 posted on 07/25/2008 10:32:47 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Petronski

Not just your wit either.


71 posted on 07/25/2008 11:00:06 AM PDT by Jaded (Does it really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: AHerald

God can take care of himself. The only one the Professor is harming through his sacrilege is himself. Pray for his soul and his conversion.


72 posted on 07/25/2008 11:27:35 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: AHerald
Question everything. God is not great, Jesus is not your lord, you are not disciples of any charismatic prophet.

Are we allowed to question this intolerant buffoon's dogmatic pontifications that God is not great and that Jesus is not my lord?

73 posted on 07/25/2008 11:29:26 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: AHerald
PZ Myers says,
"You are all human beings who must make your way through your life by thinking and learning, and you have the job of advancing humanity's knowledge by winnowing out the errors of past generations and finding deeper understanding of reality. You will not find wisdom in rituals and sacraments and dogma, which build only self-satisfied ignorance, but you can find truth by looking at your world with fresh eyes and a questioning mind."

But the mind, including the mind of this fulminating, moralizing atheist PZ Myers, by his own account, is nothing but the effect of

"...sophisticated molecular regulators and sensors and effectors and modulators that generate patterned impulses in pathways throughout the brain, ....ultimately reducible to highly organized chemistry."

So, where do these secretions and electro/chemical complexes in a couple of pounds of meat inside the skull of PZ Myers come off lecturing the brain chemistry of other bi-pedal carbon units how it should behave? It doesn't make any sense. There is no "good" or "evil" in physical/chemical forces. So where does he get his moral rational yardstick from? How does an atheist like PZ Myers presume that not only is there some sort of absolute standard of moral wisdom by which some beliefs can be evaluated as either inferior or superior to others, but that he can be the spokesman and judge who applies it?

He's a freakn' nutcase.

Amen to "somebody get a net"

Cordially,

74 posted on 07/25/2008 12:11:23 PM PDT by Diamond
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To: Diamond
So, where do these secretions and electro/chemical complexes in a couple of pounds of meat inside the skull of PZ Myers come off lecturing the brain chemistry of other bi-pedal carbon units how it should behave? It doesn't make any sense. There is no "good" or "evil" in physical/chemical forces

Good show. Well written. The logic is clear and the conclusion unavoidable, or so it would seem to the rational mind. The 'fresh-eyed and questioning mind' of the "moralizing atheist" (to use your wonderful phrase), however, is apparently blessed not to be so burdened by such things.

75 posted on 07/25/2008 3:01:47 PM PDT by AHerald ("Be faithful to God ... do not bother about the ridicule of the foolish." - St. Pio of Pietrelcina)
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To: AHerald

Silly man heaping coals on his own head!


76 posted on 07/25/2008 3:09:49 PM PDT by melsec (A Proud Aussie)
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To: Unam Sanctam
God can take care of himself. The only one the Professor is harming through his sacrilege is himself. Pray for his soul and his conversion.

Yes. Myers, and all his hi-fiving hurrah buddies commenting on his blog, is in critical need of our prayers. I must confess, though, to taking a certain extra delight in knowing that our public calls to pray for him only drives him and his kind to mock and loathe us all the more.

77 posted on 07/25/2008 3:12:24 PM PDT by AHerald ("Be faithful to God ... do not bother about the ridicule of the foolish." - St. Pio of Pietrelcina)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget; patton
Ah ah - It was late, so I missed the reference.

On that point, I would refer you to the first chapters of Ann Coulter's brilliant text, Godless.

Darwinian Evolutionary theory has been a far greater problem in inhibiting mankind's progress than the Global Warming stuff. Anyway, you don't have to agree with me - you just have to agree on school choice ;)

78 posted on 07/25/2008 8:07:16 PM PDT by mbraynard (You are the Republican Party. See you at the precinct meeting.)
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To: Petronski

Yeah, I knew I mispelt it somehow. And I own one. Thanks for the correction.


79 posted on 07/25/2008 8:12:31 PM PDT by mbraynard (You are the Republican Party. See you at the precinct meeting.)
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To: Petronski; Salvation; NYer
PING to follow-up on this sad story

According to a post over at Myers blog, the following link is to video proof that the Eucharist was in fact consecrated. It is from a Mass at the Brompton Oratory in London.

'Eucharist' taken hostage ...

Looking over the similar themed videos, and the comments sections reveals a real online cottage industry of venomous in-your-face anti-Catholicism. Not surprising, since He told us this would happen. Still, it's disturbing to see in a supposedly advanced civilized society.

80 posted on 07/26/2008 9:11:41 PM PDT by AHerald ("Be faithful to God ... do not bother about the ridicule of the foolish." - St. Pio of Pietrelcina)
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