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Dr. D. G. Hart and Mr. John R. Muether are coauthors of several books, most recently Seeking a Better Country: 300 Years of American Presbyterianism (P&R, 2007). Both are ruling elders in the Orthodox Presbyterian Church: Dr. Hart at Calvary OPC, Glenside, Pennsylvania, and Mr. Muether at Reformation OPC in Oviedo, Florida. Dr. Hart is the Director of Fellowship Programs and Scholar-in-Residence at the Intercollegiate Studies Institute. Mr. Muether is the historian of the OPC and Librarian at Reformed Theological Seminary, Orlando, FL.
1 posted on 09/24/2008 7:26:37 PM PDT by the_conscience
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To: the_conscience

I am a Protestant who loves many aspects of the Catholic Church. However, I must be frank ... to many outsiders, it appears, more than ever, to be the haven of timid, retiring intellectuals and perverts. If you are concerned about the image, this needs to be addressed pronto. (of course, image isn’t everything.)


2 posted on 09/24/2008 7:34:39 PM PDT by dinoparty
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To: the_conscience
The essential ongoing issues of the Reformation remain:

(1) The incorrect accusation of Protestants that the Catholic Church teaches salvation by works.

(2) The incorrect doctrine of Protestants that the Scriptures teach salvation by faith.

(3) The insufficient realization by Protestants that the Scriptures teach salvation by grace through faith.

(4) The fact that the Catholic Church and the Reformers have essentially different views on how God's grace operates in the life of the soul.

The result is the odd phenomenon of the Protestant who simultaneously believes that grace operates through the simplest formulation of monergism and that his personal decision to claim Christ as his savior is efficacious.

3 posted on 09/24/2008 7:40:34 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: the_conscience

Who cares what their ‘credentials’ are? They have their sect; why do they care to write about the One, True Church?


6 posted on 09/24/2008 8:01:29 PM PDT by sobieski
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To: the_conscience
Dr. D. G. Hart and Mr. John R. Muether are coauthors of several books, most recently Seeking a Better Country: 300 Years of American Presbyterianism (P&R, 2007). Both are ruling elders in the Orthodox Presbyterian Church

Ping to read later

21 posted on 09/24/2008 9:08:14 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (What can I say? It's a gift. And I didn't get a receipt, so I can't exchange it.)
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To: Not just another dumb blonde

Pinging you. Any objection to the “divisiveness” inherent in the posting of this thread? If not, why not?


24 posted on 09/25/2008 7:50:26 AM PDT by magisterium
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