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Read Bishop Soto's address here.
1 posted on 09/26/2008 12:59:41 PM PDT by Pyro7480
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To: Siobhan; Canticle_of_Deborah; NYer; Salvation; american colleen; Desdemona; StAthanasiustheGreat; ..

Catholic ping!


2 posted on 09/26/2008 1:01:41 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If the angels could be jealous of men, they would be so for one reason: Holy Communion." -M. Kolbe)
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To: Pyro7480

“We know what the Church says. What we wanted you to talk about is the value of our lived experience as lesbian women and gay men.”
***The bible calls this something like preferring to have their ears tickled.


3 posted on 09/26/2008 1:06:04 PM PDT by Kevmo (Obama Birth Certificate is a Forgery. http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/certifigate/index?tab=articles)
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To: Pyro7480

So in other words, they expected him to renounce the beliefs, traditions and teaching of his Church just so they could feel good about their aberrant behavior? The very height of their arrogance is breathtaking.


4 posted on 09/26/2008 1:08:47 PM PDT by ladtx ( "Never miss a good chance to shut up." - - Will Rogers)
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To: Pyro7480
One woman said, in essence, "We know what the Church says. What we wanted you to talk about is the value of our lived experience as lesbian women and gay men."

What dreadful journalism! If "one woman" didn't say precisely those words, then get the FReepin' quotation marks off it. If she did, then get the mincy "in essence" out of there.

6 posted on 09/26/2008 1:24:37 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Even for a thin-skinned solipsistic narcissist, Obama seems a frightful po-faced pill." ~Mark Steyn)
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To: Pyro7480
"We know what the Church says. What we wanted you to talk about is the value of our lived experience as lesbian women and gay men."

Translation: "We want AFFIRMATION, you bastard! Give us what we want or get out."
8 posted on 09/26/2008 1:46:02 PM PDT by Antoninus (Ignore the polls. They're meant to shape public opinion, not measure it.)
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To: Pyro7480

God BLESS this man....


9 posted on 09/26/2008 2:00:44 PM PDT by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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“National Association of Catholic Diocesan Lesbian and Gay Ministries”

That title is an oxymoron from people who are living in denial. Their sexual practices are called sodomy. These practices have been called sodomy from Christ to the present, from Moses to the present. These practices are unacceptable within the Judeo-Christian framework.


10 posted on 09/26/2008 2:02:39 PM PDT by ChessExpert (If it had been up to Hussein Obama, Saddam Hussein would still be in power)
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To: Pyro7480

STOP THE MADNESS!! WHY is there a Gay and Lesbian MISNISTERIES????? Next will there be a BEASTIALITY MINISTERY?? How about a POLYGAMY MINISTERY!! THIS NEEDS SMITING!


12 posted on 09/26/2008 2:31:50 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Pyro7480

Is Kathleen Parker joining the club of ex-conservatives?


14 posted on 09/26/2008 3:44:51 PM PDT by arthurus (Old age and guile beats youth and enthusiasm.)
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To: Pyro7480

That’s a keeper.


15 posted on 09/26/2008 6:15:44 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Pyro7480

Outstanding. Thank you for the ping.


16 posted on 09/26/2008 7:48:18 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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enter the Table of Contents of the Catechism of the Catholic Church here
URL: http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/para/2357.htm
Depth: 1 links away from Home
Modified: 2004-10-08 17:06:04
Title: CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 2357
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Body: 7 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered." They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved

19 posted on 09/26/2008 10:53:46 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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the National Association of Catholic Diocesan Lesbian and Gay Ministries

That's quite a mouthful...

21 posted on 09/27/2008 4:43:49 AM PDT by x_plus_one (Muhammed and Allah = memes destined for the ashheap of history.....)
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Wow! We need more bishops to stand up and speak the truth, even if it injures individual pride. Once again, if these people are not happy in the Catholic Church, they have the option to leave. Kudos to Bishop Soto!


22 posted on 09/27/2008 5:11:09 AM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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From a brochure found online, "She found Dignity/San Diego and began attending Mass there regularly."

AHA!

"Dignity" is a banned organization for Catholics. It is not a ministry, its an anti-ministry, leading Catholics away from Christ and his Church.
24 posted on 09/27/2008 6:06:49 AM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: Pyro7480

Prayers up for Bishop Soto.


25 posted on 09/27/2008 7:51:19 AM PDT by AliVeritas (All stolen from http://directorblue.blogspot. com)
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To: Pyro7480

Very nice...


27 posted on 09/27/2008 8:53:50 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus)
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A series of about eight speakers came to the microphone to express their unhappiness with what the bishop had said -- and what they felt he had not said. One woman said, in essence, "We know what the Church says. What we wanted you to talk about is the value of our lived experience as lesbian women and gay men."

Newsflash for the gays:

We don't change the Gospel......the Gospel is supposed to change us!

28 posted on 09/27/2008 2:36:07 PM PDT by marshmallow
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God bless and keep this good bishop. We need more like him.


29 posted on 09/27/2008 5:08:32 PM PDT by Bigg Red (ABC = All Barack Cheerleaders)
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To: Pyro7480

I admire anybody with the courage to do the Right Thing. This Bishop is a courageous man who did the right thing, and I admire him.

People can say what they like about the Catholic Church, but one thing is certain: its Clergy tell it like it is, without mealy-mouthed apologies. And if the audience doesn’t like the message, then the Confessionals are open but the Church doesn’t resile from that which has been said.

They are a good example for others in this way.


30 posted on 09/28/2008 3:21:51 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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