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An Anti-Abortion Catholic Supports Obama--Here's Why (Barf Alert)
Dallas Morning News ^ | 10/3/08 | Bruce Tomaso

Posted on 10/04/2008 10:46:32 AM PDT by bdeaner

Nicholas P. Cafardi, a law professor and former law school dean at Duquesne University, a Catholic school in Pittsburgh, writes that as a Catholic, he is staunchly opposed to abortion.

Pic of Cafardi:



In fact, he calls it "an unspeakable evil."

But he's voting for Barack Obama.

Here is Cafardi on the topic of abortion:

"Obama's support for abortion rights has led some to the conclusion that no Catholic can vote for him. That's a mistake. While I have never swayed in my conviction that abortion is an unspeakable evil, I believe that we have lost the abortion battle -- permanently. A vote for Sen. John McCain does not guarantee the end of abortion in America. Not even close.

Let's suppose Roe v. Wade were overturned. What would happen? The matter would simply be kicked back to the states -- where it was before 1973. Overturning Roe would not abolish abortion. It would just mean that abortion would be legal in some states and illegal in others. The number of abortions would remain unchanged as long as people could travel."

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TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: abortion; cafardi; catholic; obama
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Email for Professor Cafardi: cafardi@duq.edu
1 posted on 10/04/2008 10:46:33 AM PDT by bdeaner
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To: bdeaner

This guy belongs with the Defeatocrats.


2 posted on 10/04/2008 10:51:45 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: bdeaner

Sorry I say liar. You cannot believe that abortion is an unspeakable evil and vote for Barry.


3 posted on 10/04/2008 10:54:31 AM PDT by svcw (Great selection of gift baskets: http://baskettastic.com/)
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To: bdeaner
"The strength of a nation springs from the value of human life, dignity and civil rights in every stage, from the womb to the tomb."

-- Alveda C. King (niece of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.)
4 posted on 10/04/2008 10:55:06 AM PDT by bdeaner ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish." --Mother Theresa)
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To: bdeaner

That’s a strange rationale. We can’t do anything about it? Yet he wants to vote for a guy who voted for killing newborns - when everybody else was voting for a law that would stop this? Of course abortion is not going to end overnight, and it will be a step by step thing (such as a law protecting children born alive).

But with Barry, Mr. Death himself, you’ve guaranteed that there will be absolutely no changes and in fact things will probably get worse (I’m expecting the removal of conscience clauses that protect Catholic (and other) health professionals).


5 posted on 10/04/2008 10:58:51 AM PDT by livius
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To: bdeaner; cpforlife.org
"In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit." - Ayn Rand, speaking through her character John Galt


Strange days indeed, when you can get a better moral compass from an atheist than you can from the Dean of the Law School at a Catholic University.
6 posted on 10/04/2008 11:03:20 AM PDT by shibumi (...vampire outlaw of the milky way...)
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To: livius
Cafardi fails to understand that, ethically, one's stance on abortion and pro-life issues are foundational for any ethical system. Therefore, anyone who is opposed to the pro-life ethical position is, by default, living a morally corrupt ethical system which is intrinsically opposed to everything the Catholic Church stands for. Voting for a pro-abortion candidate is not an option for a true Catholic. He would be better off writing in a candidate, or staying home, rather than vote for someone who has a history of supporting something that is intrinsically evil.

THe other issues he mentions, such as the war, are not intrinsic evils, according to the ethics of the Church, although there is a good case that the war in the Middle East is not a just war, ethically. But that is debatable and not foundation for one's who ethical system.

As for the issue of poverty, there is a good conservative argument, of course, that the liberal welfare system has done far more harm than good for poor people, and that conservative initiatives, like No Child Left Behind, has done far more good for minorities and the poor. These issues, from within Catholic ethics, are debatable, but do not hinge on an act of murder that is, without question, intrinsically wrong and evil -- that is, never justified by its ends, ever.
7 posted on 10/04/2008 11:09:42 AM PDT by bdeaner ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish." --Mother Theresa)
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To: bdeaner
"Doogie" Cafardi.

Thinks he knows sooooooo much just because his Mommy and Daddy paid for his PhD.

8 posted on 10/04/2008 11:11:34 AM PDT by hunter112 (Gov. Palin is ten times the woman Hillary could've hoped to be, if she had stayed a "Goldwater Girl")
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To: bdeaner

Who is this man’s bishop?


9 posted on 10/04/2008 11:28:26 AM PDT by frogjerk (VOTE NO!)
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To: bdeaner

He is a college professor AND a lawyer. Who would expect anything better from him then his support of Obama???


10 posted on 10/04/2008 11:29:08 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Vote FOR AMERICA . Vote McCain / Palin)
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To: frogjerk
Rev. David A. Zubik, Bishop of the Diocese of Pittsburgh.

Diocese of Pittsburgh, 111 Blvd. of the Allies, Pittsburgh, PA 15222 412.456.3000
11 posted on 10/04/2008 12:12:08 PM PDT by bdeaner ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish." --Mother Theresa)
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To: bdeaner; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of interest.

Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

12 posted on 10/04/2008 12:15:11 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: bdeaner

Duquesne is Catholic in name only.It is no more Catholic than Georgetown.


13 posted on 10/04/2008 12:15:13 PM PDT by ardara
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To: beethovenfan

Obama Doesn’t Want His Daughters Punished with a Baby

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNzmly28Bmg

CNN on Obama’s Infant Born Alive Act Rejection

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPZCXcTwZPY

Jill Stanek on Obama and Born Alive Infant Protection Act (MUST SEE)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIdbYjmbFzo

Obama Cover-up Revealed On Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Bill

http://www.nrlc.org/ObamaBAIPA/ObamaCoverup.html

Explosive Audio Found Obama arguing against BAIPA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypDwNpgIUQc

Babies left to die!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIdbYjmbFzo

See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exxVZTKq1vA

See also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RZVw3no2A4 for a really good 10 minute video about the problem.

Demoncrats - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs


14 posted on 10/04/2008 12:15:37 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: ardara
Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment
Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

15 posted on 10/04/2008 12:15:49 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: narses

Great post!As things stand now the Catholic vote is going to defeat Obama in Ohio and Pennsylvania.The Obama people are scraping the bottom for Catholic shills.


16 posted on 10/04/2008 12:21:44 PM PDT by ardara
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To: ardara
Duquesne is Catholic in name only.

Not if this guy can help it:



Charles J. Dougherty
President, Duquesne University
17 posted on 10/04/2008 12:27:10 PM PDT by bdeaner ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish." --Mother Theresa)
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To: bdeaner

What has Dougherty done to really make the college Catholic.Is he pro-life?


18 posted on 10/04/2008 12:53:50 PM PDT by ardara
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To: ardara

Yes, Dougherty is pro-life, but more than that — he has been very vocal about emphasizing the Catholic identity of the school on many different levels. Strongly promoting and encouraging the hiring of Catholic faculty. Moved to prevent a gay and lesbian organization from forming on campus. Defended and protected a student who spoke out against homosexuality on campus, who was almost subject to disciplinary action before the intervention. Initiated a conference on the philosophy of Pope John Paul II. Etc. etc. Ask faculty there, and they will tell you how much they are wringing their hands over him!


19 posted on 10/04/2008 1:03:37 PM PDT by bdeaner ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish." --Mother Theresa)
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To: bdeaner
Abortion is so unspeakable that we won't speak of it. Otherwise, Obama is such a fine man that he just deserves what the nation wants to bestow. I know, I know, there is that Wright thing. Oh, yes, and the Rezko...and Ayers...well, truth be told, no one can be as bad as they talk of Rezko. Indeed, Ayeres...well...if I knew him at the time, I'm sure we would have been soul mates.

I know, I know, he wants to tax the bejeebers out of the drug companies and the oil men. Who doesn't? We'll teach those clowns to provide more drugs and oil...or else!

There is just so much right about the guy. I don't see how you can be a Catholic and not support him!!!

If you say these things often enough they have to start making some sense.

20 posted on 10/04/2008 1:48:09 PM PDT by stevem
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