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DO NOT TAKE THE MICROCHIP!!!
My own work ^ | October 6, 2008 | Rev. Joseph Dwight

Posted on 10/06/2008 9:14:02 AM PDT by JosephJames

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To: JosephJames
The Antichrist will be extremely intelligent, charismatic, and everything else. “all the world [wonders] after the Beast” (Rev 13:3-4). It is not Obama. I do not believe that the Antichrist has revealed himself yet.

And who was it that said 'he' would be 'god'???? I think it is recorded that he received the death sentence for his extreme intelligence and charismatic pride!

51 posted on 10/06/2008 11:04:27 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

In Brussells, Belgium is the center of the biggest computer database in the world. It has been a work in progress since mid-70’s, it can hold all of the world’s data for each human being. My mother had a real estate business for twenty years in WV...she sold a piece of real estate to a man who worked there for years...he told her the nickname of that huge (many city blocks) monstracity was “THE BEAST”..it gave real pause regarding scripture. ...it may not be The Beast of the Bible, but who knows for sure, if it controls all of our data.


52 posted on 10/06/2008 11:09:25 AM PDT by Kackikat ( Without National Security all other issues are mute points; chaos ensues.))
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

I agree with you. In and of itself, the microchip is neutral; it depends how it is used. But I believe the form of the “mark of the beast” will end up being the microchip.

In the article “The Microchip is the “Sign” of the Beast of the Book of Revelation” (http://markbeast.blogspot.com) one finds these paragraphs:
Dr. Sanders then, in designing with the team the bio-chip, or micro-chip, was opposed to the use of a lithium battery, as it is known that if one might break the lithium, which is radioactive, it would cause a grave blister or ulcer, and would verify, in addition to pain, many complications for those who might accept it.
Indeed, says the Book of Revelation (Rev 16:2): “So the first angel went and poured his bowl on the earth, and foul and evil sores come upon the men who bore the mark (micro-chip) of the beast and worshiped its image.”


53 posted on 10/06/2008 11:23:52 AM PDT by JosephJames (The Truth Shall Set You Free (Jn 8:32)!)
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To: Just mythoughts; JosephJames
Not that being Catholic is relevant to this subject, and I have NO clue what Catholics of any stripes believe, and it does not matter what your http: site claims. Those that receive that 'mark' do so willingly, they do not know what the mark is.... now if a supernatural being shows upon this earth how would you know who that entity was. The 'mark' is about counting over a very long period of time..... how many know how to count that number???

While i am also not Catholic, i do know that there is little to no difference between Catholic eschatology and basic Protestant eschatology. The only real difference is that Dispensational Premillenialist thought is almost an exclusive Protestant teaching, and is to the best of my knowledge, never taught in the Catholic Church.

i find it most curious that if the poster JosephJames is the Catholic Priest who wrote this blog article, why on earth would he publish doctrinal teaching that is FAR outside the tradition of the Catholic Church?

Something is just a bit off here.

54 posted on 10/06/2008 11:28:12 AM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: Kackikat
You say about the false prophet: “who is religious based”. Who do you think will be able to draw the most people to follow him and to adore the image of the first beast? Even though I am a Catholic, I will not be surprised if this prediction comes true. But the prediction says this person will be an evil cardinal who convinces many that he is the Pope, not the true Pope.
55 posted on 10/06/2008 11:30:15 AM PDT by JosephJames (The Truth Shall Set You Free (Jn 8:32)!)
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To: JosephJames

The false prophet will need to be able to convince a large majority of people, and I’m not sure who that would be at this point....


56 posted on 10/06/2008 11:33:37 AM PDT by Kackikat ( Without National Security all other issues are mute points; chaos ensues.))
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To: Kackikat
In Brussells, Belgium is the center of the biggest computer database in the world. It has been a work in progress since mid-70’s, it can hold all of the world’s data for each human being. My mother had a real estate business for twenty years in WV...she sold a piece of real estate to a man who worked there for years...he told her the nickname of that huge (many city blocks) monstracity was “THE BEAST”..it gave real pause regarding scripture. ...it may not be The Beast of the Bible, but who knows for sure, if it controls all of our data.

That particular urban legend has been around since the early 1970's. It was nonsense then, and it is nonsense now.

When i was younger, and more impressionable, i drove around Brussels for three days looking for this super computer that took up three square city blocks. IT DID NOT EXIST THEN, DOES NOT EXIST NOW, AND WILL NOT EXIST IN THE FUTURE.

There is no need for such a thing to exist. The power of a good high end PC or network thereof would hold all of the necessary data for the purpose you state. It could be housed in a small office.

57 posted on 10/06/2008 11:35:18 AM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: JosephJames

I WANT THE MICROCHIP!!!!!!!


58 posted on 10/06/2008 11:35:39 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord

It existed in the 1970’s, because the man was an engineer there, and since technology has changed it could be in a huge building now, but believe me it existed...it was not an urban legend. I told you a truthful fact, and whatever happened between then and now does not negate the truth...no matter how many trips you took to Belgium. The reason for that is that Bill Gates, Microsoft was in the News a couple of years ago for a conference there.


59 posted on 10/06/2008 11:41:49 AM PDT by Kackikat ( Without National Security all other issues are mute points; chaos ensues.))
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To: AppyPappy

You will have to accept Mohammed and Islam as your religion to get it.


60 posted on 10/06/2008 11:42:35 AM PDT by Kackikat ( Without National Security all other issues are mute points; chaos ensues.))
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord
What “is FAR outside the tradition of the Catholic Church?” that I wrote? I agree with you that the “mark of the beast” will have to be accepted willingly. But how many have faith strong enough to risk starvation for oneself, and even worse, for ones family? Christ asks us all to be willing to follow Him even to Calvary.

We must pray very much and live well, and fully, the Gospel each day in order to be strong enough to confront the greatest attack and deception of Satan in the history of mankind. THOSE WHO in truth do not pray much, THOSE WHO do not sincerely seek the truth in the Gospel, THOSE WHO use religion to serve their own purposes and desires rather than using religion to discover God’s holy will, in all humility, and to do God’s holy will, THOSE WHO, even though God gave to them everything they have including their own existence, the horrible death on the cross of their Savior, and the chance to go to heaven, and have put so many other things and priorities as the more important things in their lives instead of putting God in the first place in their lives, … , will very easily dismiss this warning and will rationalize that it is OK to deny Jesus Christ in order to receive the MICROCHIP and thus to avoid starving to death at least for the time being. “God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: that they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” (2Thess 2:11-12).

61 posted on 10/06/2008 11:43:01 AM PDT by JosephJames (The Truth Shall Set You Free (Jn 8:32)!)
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To: JosephJames

That’s novel, you managed to make a Revelation Chapter 13 thread fun & interesting to read.

Revelation 13
16He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, 17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.


63 posted on 10/06/2008 11:49:41 AM PDT by Kevmo (McCain's learning from Palin how to win a national election. Palin's learning from him how to lose 1)
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To: JosephJames

Person A: I believe in the Bible and in the prophecies contained therein.

Person A: Oh no! The Bible was right and the prophecies are going to come true!

Person B: I believe in the Bible and in the prophecies contained therein.

Person B: Aha! So that is how the prophecies will come to pass.

Now which person makes more sense?


64 posted on 10/06/2008 11:53:29 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Kevmo

I’ve always thought that what John was seeing was people placing their right hand on a palm reader or putting their forehead on a retinal scanner.

If that is the case, then the “mark” itself would be cosmetic and taken only as a matter of pride in their rejection of Christ.


65 posted on 10/06/2008 11:55:40 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: JosephJames
If you feel that this is all crazy and that I am totally nuts, I would still urge you to print out a hard copy of these two articles, even if you do not read them now, so that when it all does happen, you will be able to read these articles to have an idea of what is going on

Why would I need to do that, if I already have a Bible? Oh yeah, because this crap isn't in the Bible.

66 posted on 10/06/2008 11:55:40 AM PDT by Sloth (Pontius Pilate voted 'present'; Barrabas was community organizer.)
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/01/msn_belgium_id_cards/

This article is about Bill Gates, Microsoft working with Belgium on the eID card for online checking....

This is the beginning, and everyone needs to read this article.


67 posted on 10/06/2008 11:57:06 AM PDT by Kackikat ( Without National Security all other issues are mute points; chaos ensues.))
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/01/msn_belgium_id_cards/

This article is about Bill Gates, Microsoft working with Belgium on the eID card for online checking....

This was the beginning, and everyone needs to read this article.


68 posted on 10/06/2008 11:57:17 AM PDT by Kackikat ( Without National Security all other issues are mute points; chaos ensues.))
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Check out link I posted in later post about Bill Gates working with Belgium.


69 posted on 10/06/2008 11:58:32 AM PDT by Kackikat ( Without National Security all other issues are mute points; chaos ensues.))
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To: Kackikat
It existed in the 1970’s, because the man was an engineer there, and since technology has changed it could be in a huge building now, but believe me it existed...it was not an urban legend. I told you a truthful fact, and whatever happened between then and now does not negate the truth...no matter how many trips you took to Belgium. The reason for that is that Bill Gates, Microsoft was in the News a couple of years ago for a conference there.

You are of course free to believe what you wish to believe, but IT DID NOT EXIST, DOES NOT NOW EXIST, AND NEVER WILL EXIST.

i lived in Europe for several years, speak French, German, Irish Gaelic, a little Russian, read and write Greek fluently. The natives of Brussels have had many a laugh over Americans who came to town looking for this thing.

What you told me was an urban legend that can be traced back to Hal Lindsey.

Bill Gates was still in college when this thing was said to have been built, and Microsoft certainly did not exist.

Google or Yahoo has more than enough capacity to register the entire world.

i'm sorry that you must defend this fairy tale, but we can solve this easily:

Just post a Google Earth link to the location of this thing for everyone to see.. That should solve the issue.

70 posted on 10/06/2008 12:04:30 PM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: Kackikat
This article is about Bill Gates, Microsoft working with Belgium on the eID card for online checking....

This was the beginning, and everyone needs to read this article.

Much better, but still no cigar.

This thing was said to have been built in the early 1970's. The computer power required to do what you describe certainly does not require three square city blocks of Brussels, Belgium.

72 posted on 10/06/2008 12:10:58 PM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: JosephJames

Did somebody ping me?


73 posted on 10/06/2008 12:11:05 PM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: JosephJames

The Antichrist will be extremely intelligent,
***I saw a post on another thread a while back that said something like, “Obama can’t be the Antichrist. He’s too dumb.”


74 posted on 10/06/2008 12:34:15 PM PDT by Kevmo (McCain's learning from Palin how to win a national election. Palin's learning from him how to lose 1)
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To: Kackikat

What is the title of your post so I can find it easier?

Thanks


75 posted on 10/06/2008 12:45:49 PM PDT by JosephJames (The Truth Shall Set You Free (Jn 8:32)!)
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To: JosephJames
Dr. Sanders then, in designing with the team the bio-chip, or micro-chip, was opposed to the use of a lithium battery, as it is known that if one might break the lithium, which is radioactive, it would cause a grave blister or ulcer, and would verify, in addition to pain, many complications for those who might accept it.
Indeed, says the Book of Revelation (Rev 16:2): “So the first angel went and poured his bowl on the earth, and foul and evil sores come upon the men who bore the mark (micro-chip) of the beast and worshiped its image.”

i don't want to rain on your parade Joseph, but Lithium has NO radioactive isotopes. Lithium is itself a salt, and may cause burns by itself (though probably not in the quantities required to power a microchip, which would be very small), but it is decidedly not radioactive.

i have seen microchips that are inserted under the skin. They are in a self contained environment, and difficult to break. They're about the size of a somewhat fat grain of rice. If there was any real harm involved to the person it is likely that the FDA would ban the use of such a thing on human beings.

Europe is quite another matter, and has their own laws on these issues.

76 posted on 10/06/2008 1:23:40 PM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord

Thanks for the info. It is past 11 pm here in Italy so I must go to bed.


77 posted on 10/06/2008 2:14:27 PM PDT by JosephJames (The Truth Shall Set You Free (Jn 8:32)!)
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Intel 5:86 - For thee hath been etched in the frozen sand, and canst count the very hairs on mine head within the beat of the sparrows wing.


78 posted on 10/06/2008 2:18:29 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Secondhand Aztlan Smoke causes drug addiction obesity in global warming cancer immigrant terrorists.)
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To: Zathras

no but the odd posts like this keep the casual observer or the detractor free to call freerepublic a goof site.

it is like the occasional pot head threads we were getting with ronpaul supporters.


79 posted on 10/06/2008 2:40:28 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: JosephJames

Hehe...couldn’t resist. If I didn’t say it someone else would...:)


80 posted on 10/06/2008 3:04:00 PM PDT by rlmorel (Who is Saul Alinsky and why is Barack Obama a disciple of his methods?)
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To: JosephJames
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81 posted on 10/06/2008 8:21:56 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (What can I say? It's a gift. And I didn't get a receipt, so I can't exchange it.)
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord
Denominational ism aside I do not understand why ‘Christians’ would not take heed from the words of Christ Himself.... Mark 13:23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.

This would certainly include who the beast/false prophet would be and if we Christians would need be concerned with the insertion of an object such as a microchip as being representative of beast followers.

82 posted on 10/07/2008 2:02:18 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: JosephJames; Alex Murphy; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Larry Lucido
Some churches seem to think it is a good idea: Techno-Tithe: Church Implants Microchips in Members' Right Hands


83 posted on 10/07/2008 2:10:46 AM PDT by Gamecock (Life is to short for bad theology.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Thanks for pointing out these articles. I am not supprized even though it is rather enlightening about how things are going and developing.


84 posted on 10/07/2008 5:16:14 AM PDT by JosephJames (The Truth Shall Set You Free (Jn 8:32)!)
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To: Gamecock
Thanks for pointing out this article. When the time comes, as someone above pointed out, it will be very clear that one will have to deny Jesus Christ to receive the “mark of the beast”. I believe the “mark of the beast” will take on the form of the microchip, even though in itself, it is neutral. No one goes to heaven for all eternity by chance! And no one goes to hell for all eternity by chance. God gave each of us the great gift of freedom as we are created in the image and likeness of God (Gen 1:26).

God only wants those in heaven with Him for all eternity who want to be with Him and thus those who do his will, which is God's perfect design for each of us. God loves each of us immensely. If each of us discovers this truth, we will trust God more than ourselves and thus seek to do His will which is infinitely better than our own will since God loves each of us more than we love ourselves. The catch is that inevitably, doing God's will is always united with the great mystery of the passion and death of Jesus Christ. True love always involves sacrifice and suffering which is our share in the suffering of Christ (Col 1:24).

There will many martyrs in the coming period as Rev. 7:14 etc. indicates. It would be a great privilege to be able to die for Christ as He died for each one of us! Alleluia!

85 posted on 10/07/2008 5:49:05 AM PDT by JosephJames (The Truth Shall Set You Free (Jn 8:32)!)
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