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To: Quix
No assumptions have been given. I quoted you what Paul said and Paul even went the extra effort in IIThessalonians 1 to reiterate what he said in IThessalonians regarding our gathering together unto Him.

Paul repeats what was Christ's first warning regarding His return in Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21 ... Let no man deceive you by any means: for *that day shall not come,* except there come a falling away first. Does NOT say flying out first it says falling away first, welll who are these that will fall and who are they falling to??... Paul continues and that man of sin (the first sinner) be revealed, the son of perdition, verse 4 identifies who this son of perdition is by virtually quoting Ezekiel 28 as that one who opposeth and exalted himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped: so that he as God sitteth in the Temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

You have just been told who the beast or the instead of Jesus is, none other than the devil the first sinner.

40 posted on 10/07/2008 9:59:51 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: Just mythoughts

I don’t have time or inclination in the near future to point out the assumptions. Maybe someone else will.

So, now the topic has changed to the fact that the Anti-Christ is satan incarnate?

Didn’t realize anyone had ANY doubt about THAT! LOL.

Assuming, groping, extrapolating, stretching . . .

to avoid the simple meaning of I Thes 4:16-17

is a rather dubious exercise, at best, to me.


41 posted on 10/07/2008 10:23:31 PM PDT by Quix (POL LDRS GLOBALIST QUOTES: #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Just mythoughts
I quoted you what Paul said and Paul even went the extra effort in IIThessalonians 1 to reiterate what he said in IThessalonians regarding our gathering together unto Him.

Two different events...As you know the first one says we will meet the Lord in the air and ever be with the Lord...Now look at this one...

2Th 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
2Th 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
2Th 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

There aren't any Christians meeting the Lord in the air here...The Lord shows up with His army and He's killing people left and right...These are the people that got LEFT BEHIND at the Rapture...

You can't make both of these events the same even if you stood on your head and twirled pencils with your toes...

66 posted on 10/08/2008 7:46:49 AM PDT by Iscool (If Obama becomes the President, it will be an Obama-nation)
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