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To: TaraP; Kirkwood

TaraP asked — “How do you know some Souls might reside in the heavens (New) while new bodies in Christ will reside on the New earth?”

Well, just an overview of some things. We could go really long on this one, because it involves things from different places in the Bible. But, this is an overview of it.

First of all, prior to the time of Christ, the “dead” were in Sheol (the grave), kept in two places (in that location), one for the saved dead and one for the unsaved dead.

At the time of Christ’s death and resurrection, Christ took the souls of the saved dead and brought them with him back to Heaven, where He is now. You’ll also note that Christ told one of the thieves (being crucified at the same time) that he would be with Him (i.e., with Christ) that day (in Paradise), on the basis of the thief’s acceptance of Christ as the Messiah of Israel, the one who was to come and was the salvation of the world.

Now, we have the Apostle Paul who tells us that to be absent from the body (talking to Christians...) is to be present with the Lord. So we know that.

Additionally, we know that at the time of the Rapture, that the “dead in Christ” will be raised up just before the living (”in Christ”, too) are “translated” (in the twinkling of an eye) and are “taken up” to be with Christ forevermore.

And then, we see that all the saints and the host of angels come back with Christ (His “second coming” in glory and power and as the King of King and Lord of Lords) to rule and reign over the world and all the nations of the world, at the time of the Millennium.

During the time of the Tribulation, we see that there are souls (under the throne, if I remember correctly) who are still waiting to be given their redeemed bodies, as they were killed during the Great Tribulation. They will be given their redeemed bodies at the coming of the Lord as King of King and Lord of Lords, to rule and reign at the beginning of His Millennial Kingdom on this earth (and all of us, who have been given our redeemed bodies, at the time of the Rapture, plus the “dead in Christ”) will be returning with Him at that time.

So, at various times, during the “timeline” of history (and of the Church) and during the Tribulation, we see the various souls of mankind in many different places (at those different times).

“In the end” (at the beginning of the Millennial Kingdom of Christ on this earth) — all the souls (except for the unsaved dead) have been resurrected and are in their redeemed bodies and are with Christ, where He is (and He is ruling and reigning on the earth for that 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom). At that particular time, there are no more “saved” souls, still waiting to be redeemed (who are “dead” and without their redeemed bodies).

All that remains at that time are the “unsaved dead” awaiting their resurrection at the Great White Throne Judgement (as seen in Revelation 20).

I hope that gives a good overview and (perhaps) answers the question (don’t know for sure...).


87 posted on 10/08/2008 10:43:35 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

I don’t think anyone has all the precise sequences 100% figured out.

Seems to me God deliberately fuzzied it.

However, that we are in THAT ERA seems abundantly clear to anyone with 1/100th

of eyes to see and ears to hear.


93 posted on 10/08/2008 11:00:16 AM PDT by Quix (POL LDRS GLOBALIST QUOTES: #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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