Posted on 10/13/2008 6:28:08 PM PDT by mbeeber
This neutron bomb theory vis-à-vis Zech. 14:12 is nothing new.
Any idea when, BTW, Isaiah's "oracle of Damascus" started getting interpreted as a modern nuke-ing, instead of a long ago Assyrian siege, sacking and deportation (as for instance, II Kings 16:9)? Neither the New Scofield Bible (from the 1960s) nor, of course, "Scofield Bible: the Original Series" sees it the way the current guys do.
Who is Israel? Scripture please.
Thanks.
My understanding of the Biblical text is that
Damascus
will be obliterated and never lived in again.
What nonsense posits that in
HISTORY?
Once upon a time there was
Abraham
Then
Isaac
Then
Jacob
The the 12 Patriarchs . . .
REPLACEMENTARIANISM has the cheek to idiotically
ASsuME
brazenly and foolishly assume
that the grafted in johnny come lately Christians
usurp A GOD GIVEN BIRTHRIGHT AND GOD’S UNALTERABLE PROMISES.
What silliness.
Before we he into discussing particular texts, allow me to ask a few basic questions.
1) Do believe that God has one "peculiar people," or two, or more?
2) Do you believe that gentiles as well as Jews are the true children of Abraham by virtue of their faith in Jesus Christ?
3) Do you believe that gentiles have been and are being continually grafted into the commonwealth of Israel by virtue of their faith in Jesus Christ?
4) Do you believe that gentile believers are second class citizens in the assembly of God's people?
5) Do you believe that the Abrahamic promises were made to "The Seed" (Jesus Christ) or to national Israel?
6) Do you believe that the "everlasting possession" promise given to Abraham was limited to a thousand years or so of human history?
7) Do you believe that all followers of Jesus Christ presently inhabit the true Jerusalem?
8) Do you believe that Jesus Christ is presently reigning from the throne of David in heaven?
9) Do you believe that there is yet to be a future holocaust as an expression of divine wrath against Jewish people in fulfillment of Zech. 13:8,9?
10) Do you believe in a future millennial reign of Christ on the earth wherein old covenant sacrifices will once against be offered for sin?
11) Do you believe that the ceremonial laws of old covenant Israel were temporary and typological of the person and work of Jesus Christ or freestanding ordinances still binding on certain people today?
12) Do you believe there was prophetic significance to the establish of secular Israel in 1948?
13) Do you believe that when Romans 11 speaks of "all Israel" being saved it is speaking of every last Jewish man, woman, and child?
14) Do you believe there is a different between the kingdom of heaven and the kingdom of God in Scripture?
15) Do you believe that the Church practices "gentile Christianity"?
16) Do you believe that it is proper to call Jewish followers of Jesus Christ "Christians"?
17) Do you believe that human history could continue for another two thousand years or more?
18) Do you believe that, as we move forward in time, the gospel of Jesus Christ will have any discernible positive influence over the nations and cultures of the world?
I'm sure you can understand my apprehension to enter into a protracted discussion by one who has obviously picked up the inflammatory lingo regarding so-called "replacement theology" from their church or favorite pop theologian. Perhaps the answers to these questions will give us an opportunity for honest exchange without interference from the multi-colored, empty-headed snipes that inhabit this forum.
Was that a typo or a deliberate statement?
And, just for the record, not all non-dispensationalists are "Ahmilllenialists". But I'm sure you have studied enough to know that to be the case.
I can't be sure, but I suspect it happened when the new breed of dispensationalist arrived on the scene in the late '60s in the form of Hal Lindsey, et al. They popularized the things taught at Dallas Seminary, but did not keep with the consistency of the older dispensational writers, like Scofield and Chafer. You can see a touch of it in Walvoord and Ryrie, but Lindsey and Co went off the deep end.
Most modern dispensationalists have little or no connection with their spiritual fathers. They are merely repeating the pop stuff that appears on the airwaves and in fictional accounts like the Left Behind series.
Funny how prophecy fanatics are always trying to figure out what is coming and what God is up to at the moment instead of spending their time on what they should be doing now, you know, what the Lord has told them to do while he is away.
The law was the first born got the double portion, so why would God allow His own law to be broken and then stand behind it. I even had a woman tell me her preacher said the meaning of the story of Rebekah was about what kind of manipulators women were. But then I should not concern myself regarding these peoples as I would not be here when the bad stuff started happening to them.
Before Abraham was God and even Christ so how about we put them first and find out was was written would be instead of claiming some separated mission of peoples under man made traditions.
I can't find that God or Christ in anything they said or had penned stated a separation in Israel the peoples of the full two houses and the Church. When did God ever set for two different paths for salvation?
Does not matter to me what little arrows get flung as means and methodology to present superiority.
I’ve spoken to those issues repeatedly.
Scripture is clear enough for those with eyes to see and ears to hear.
Was listening to Romans again tonight. Even ‘just’ Romans is sufficient.
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