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1 posted on 11/16/2008 12:22:03 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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2 posted on 11/16/2008 12:22:49 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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Is Halloween still going? Great. Obama as anti-Christ is plausible only if he’s descended from the ancient Romans, and, guess what? His mum’s ‘sedents come from Great Britian, which, if I remember right, was founded by gentlemen and fair ladies from about those parts.

If the puppy he gets his girls is a Rotty, gulp.


3 posted on 11/16/2008 12:30:23 PM PST by BlueStateBlues (Blue State for business, Red State at heart..)
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“he will consider himself superior”. CHECK!


4 posted on 11/16/2008 12:31:30 PM PST by TheConservativeParty ("Those guys are jerks!" Saracuda)
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No, Mr Obama is not the A-C.


5 posted on 11/16/2008 12:34:07 PM PST by RightWhale (Exxon Suxx)
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Bookmarking to read later. Thanks.


6 posted on 11/16/2008 12:35:01 PM PST by taszilch
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To: GiovannaNicoletta; topcat54
Our job in the short time we have left is to get ready to move to our new home.

Ping to topcat54, for obvious reasons.

10 posted on 11/16/2008 12:41:38 PM PST by Lee N. Field (a dispensational exegesis not supported by an a-, post- or historic pre-mil scholar will be ignored.)
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"But apart from that there's no Biblical reason I can find that would absolutely disqualify him."

There is in point of fact a very biblical reason that disqualifies Obama from being the Antichrist.

Daniel 9:26 specifically states that "the prince who is to come" i.e., the Antichrist will be a direct descendent of the people who destroyed Jerusalem and the temple in Jerusalem:

“Then after the sixty-two weeks the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing, and the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. And its end will come with a flood; even to the end there will be war; desolations are determined." (Daniel 9:26)

Both Jerusalem and the sanctuary (the temple) were destroyed by the Roman army led by Titus of Rome in A.D. 70. The last time I checked, Obama has been referred to as a citizen of Kenya, and possibly, IF a legit birth certificate can be produced (highly unlikely) he may be a citizen of the United States. In either case, neither qualifies him as a citizen of Rome or of the revived ROMAN empire which Holy Scripture says is to come.

Given the above, there are indeed biblical grounds for disqualifying Obamessiah as the Antichrist. That said, there is no doubt in my mind that Obama is AN antichrist who exhibits the spirit OF Antichrist.

11 posted on 11/16/2008 12:46:46 PM PST by Jmouse007 (tot)
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What purpose do these crazy threads serve? The ultra-judgmental foolishness of right wing loonies is what costs Republicans elections.


12 posted on 11/16/2008 12:54:11 PM PST by abclily
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Not THE but certainly AN antiChrist.
18 posted on 11/16/2008 1:02:46 PM PST by svcw (Great selection of gift baskets: http://baskettastic.com/)
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Go to This Link and scroll down to the Evening Pick 3 for 11/5/08 (the day after election day)

No urban myth here - the real deal.

21 posted on 11/16/2008 1:07:26 PM PST by peteram
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The Antichrist will have to be a lot more religious than Obama.

He will know the Word as well (or not as well) as Satan did when he tempted Christ in the 40 days in the desert.

He will perform miracles as Satan can do this, that will deceive the whole world into worshiping him as Jesus or God himself.

He will murder those who do not bend the knee.

I am dubious that Obama is the anti Christ, though he may have the “Antichrist spirit” that animates Marxism and Nazism and even IsalmoFascism.

However, he will appear to be Christ and will fool those who do not know the Word in their minds and hearts and spirits. In other words, he will appear to be very religious and only those who have a real relationship with Christ based upon the written Word made Flesh will be able to see through the Satanic Charade.

He will also be ushered in by The False Prophet. So it behooves us now to be able to discern false teaching and false prophecy now. Thus my worry about Mitt Romney and the Mormon church that appear to be Christian but are not, btw. It will be a counterfeit, murderous, eye for an eye counterfeit “religion” that the Anti Christ will lead.

This means that this will be a sect of the Christian or pseudo Christian church itself that this “Man of Sin” will arise from. This is the true meaning of the Joel 2 army that “God promises he will send” against His own people for persecution and purification. The back up to that Joel 2 Scripture is in 2 Thess, I believe, and it says To those who no longer love the truth, I will send a strong Delusion.

In the OT, Isaiah I think, it also says “To those who no longer tremble at My Word.... I will choose their delusions.”

The AntiChrist will seem “Christian” and will present himself as Christ to keep the deluded, deluded and to delude the whole world.

Until Obama shows a real acuity in Bible understanding, I'm only worried for the damage to our system of government now. Worried more about the whole world under delusion when that counterfeit Christian, the “Man of Sin” appears.

25 posted on 11/16/2008 1:16:36 PM PST by IreneE ("The apprehension of beauty is the cure for apathy." - my paraphrase of Thomas Aquinas)
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Oh yeah, and this is why the Anti Christ’s minions will be killing the saints as they believe “they are killing them for God’. This is what the “great Apostasy” the “End Time Delusion” is all about. Because it will be a one world religious theocracy.


27 posted on 11/16/2008 1:21:48 PM PST by IreneE ("The apprehension of beauty is the cure for apathy." - my paraphrase of Thomas Aquinas)
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Let me begin by saying that having been elected President he's Mr. Obama now, not just Obama.

His name is Barack Hussein Obama, and his job title is PINO.

32 posted on 11/16/2008 1:35:35 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (2010. Do or die.)
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Let's find out.

We know that the anti-Christ will be a descendant of the people who made up the Roman Empire in Biblical times (Daniel 9:26), and he'll arrive on the world scene as a peace maker (Daniel 8:25). He won't be part of the world's powerful elite at the beginning of his career (Daniel 7:8) but will rise up among them to eventually surpass them and become the leader of the entire world. (Rev. 13:7-8)


I wonder if the guy who wrote this has ever heard the terms "collage" or "papier mache" because that's what he's doing with scripture. He's taking bits and pieces and assembling them according to a scenario he and others have created, papering over an otherwise invisible idea, and then calling the emerging form "scriptural" because it's covered with bits and pieces of scripture.
33 posted on 11/16/2008 1:36:27 PM PST by aruanan
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Anti-christ will be a Jew!


37 posted on 11/16/2008 1:51:57 PM PST by Doctor Don
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2 years ago when I was still in school my Pastor said that he predicted that Jesus whould come in 2012. And ever seance then i’ve done research and for some reason every END prediction is in 2012. I dont like this I’m only 19 I have a gf and i was thinking about engaging her. But its getting scary for what every one is saying. I don’t want to leave this earth till i have children. But I don’t want my children to have to live in the time of the A-C.


38 posted on 11/16/2008 2:04:42 PM PST by djandcj
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I don't believe that Barack Obama is the Antichrist; I do believe, however, that he will weaken this nation to the point that when the actual Antichrist appears, people will accept him as god with no hesitation and very little resistance.

I believe that Obama will completely abandon Israel and when he does, God will finally turn His back on America. We were the last nation on earth who stood side-by-side with Israel and when Obama throws her to the Islamic wolves, it will be a fulfillment of the prophecy that all nations will turn against Israel, leaving only God to rescue her during the attempted attack on her outlined in Ezekiel 38 and 39.

No, I don't think Obama is the Antichrist but he has been put in a position to hammer the final nail in the coffin of the USA.

41 posted on 11/16/2008 2:22:21 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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Please consider the possibility that though Obama isn’t the Antichrist(*), that if he was, or even if he just claimed to be, it would not diminish him in the eyes of his followers.

(*) There is some disagreement as to whether Antichrist is capitalized.

Even more so, they might actually support him more. Be thrilled that he was a creature of power and substance who would smite those they hate. And most importantly, who would give them what they *want*.

Do you for a moment think that many of them would have a problem replacing the cross in their church with a statue of Obama?

“Barack Obama’s nomination is so extraordinary that another chapter could be added to the Bible to chronicle its significance.”
— Jesse Jackson, Jr.

So what does this mean? Make a list of not the concepts that the real Antichrist would want, but what that would mean in terms of the real laws we have today. That is, what is the Antichrist’s political platform?

Right off the bat, the Antichrist would almost certainly be totally pro-abortion. He would be thrilled with the idea of slaughtering innocent lives. The same with euthanasia, he would be all in favor of it. But here’s a zinger. In his Audacity of Hope book, Obama actually supports the death penalty as well! In other words, he is pro-death across the board.

So death, death and more death.

So what other issues would the Antichrist support?

Oddly enough, he doesn’t want war, because he wants to rule all the world. If he wants a war, it is for genocidal or murderous reasons against a group he hates, not his followers fighting other of his followers.

As well, he wants total government control over everything, all responsive to just his voice. Valerie Jarrett, Co-chair of Barack Obama’s Transition Team, came right out and said that he intends to “rule”. Of course that what his followers want as well.

So the question is open: is Obama’s platform the same as the Antichrist’s? And if so, unless he is truly supernatural, which is awful hard to tell, will he be remembered as “an Antichrist”, if not “The Antichrist.”


44 posted on 11/16/2008 2:35:50 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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51 posted on 11/16/2008 3:00:09 PM PST by Alex Murphy ( "Every country has the government it deserves" - Joseph Marie de Maistre)
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As for him being the anti-Christ I've discouraged that thought because I don't believe it's time for the anti-Christ to be revealed yet. But apart from that there's no Biblical reason I can find that would absolutely disqualify him.

Well, that's certainly hedging your bet.

56 posted on 11/16/2008 4:11:27 PM PST by HarleyD
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