Posted on 11/16/2008 6:40:35 PM PST by sionnsar
Chatter is starting pick up here and there, so I just wanted to report that, yes, according to several different sources on different levels and in different parts of the country, inside TEC, outside TEC... the new North American Anglican province will be born December 3rd.
Cowboy up - it's finally gonna start to get interesting...
As we reported here:(Note: I am unable to view video -- sionnsar)http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/17906/
...Bishops Duncan and Murdoch confirm here:
http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/17928/
Traditional Anglican ping, continued in memory of its founder Arlin Adams. *goose bumps*
Interesting.
Wondering what the Ft. Worth Diocese will do ???
The “stay” faction has already split.
I viewed the video - sounds like they’ll adopt the constitution of the new province then, it sounded like perhaps there would be additional steps required.
Time to return to the Word of God.
bump
December 3—Feast of St. Francis Xavier. A good time for the church orthodox to become the Church truly Militant.
Fort Worth voted to split from the ECUSA and affiliate with the Southern Cone. I can't think of any reason they wouldn't be on board with this.
I see where some of the folks in Fort Worth were pushing for a union with Rome - I can’t see that happening.
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This is very encouraging.
Would you be willing to explain to a non-Anglican. I think I get the jist, but don’t know enough to really understand what is happening. Thanks!
It is anticipated that they will be joined by some of the parishes which left the Episcopal church earlier and who affiliated with various African and Asian bodies. There are, for example a number of churches in Virginia and Florida that could join.
In addition, there are groups which broke away earlier who may end up joining.
The biggest sticking point is the ordination of women. Some of the faithful bodies ordain women, some do not, and some accommodation will have to be reached for a broader union.
I believe all Southern Cone churches are a part of Common Cause, which is what this group is right now. I know AMiA, and CANA are, as is the Reformed Episcopal Church (having been around since the 1800s).
This is a HUGE STEP folks, as it is not only a direct challenge to The Episcopal Church, but, to the worldwide Anglican Communion—as governed by Canterbury. This new Anglican denomination will be recognized by the GAFCON (orthodox, mostly developing world) bishops, who, represent some 70% of Anglicans worldwide. The Archbishop of Canterbury will be pressured tremendously to recognize it, or, split off that 70% of the Communion away from him, which he is very loath to do.
Of course TEC and its many English allies will NOT want Canterbury to recognize it—as it makes clear the split in the Anglican Communion is real and substantial. And how can Canterbury recognize two overlapping provinces in the same country?
VERY INTERESTING...
a little problem of “apostolic succession” has to be resolved...
“Apostolic succession?” Rome hasn’t recognized Anglicanism’s apostolic succession in over 100 years now right? And the Church of England hasn’t recognized the legitimacy of the Pope since 1534.... All the African overseen groups have correct Anglican apostolic succession, by Anglican standards,and no one has accused their ordinations of being irregular.
In any event, evangelical Anglican scholar John Stott believes true apostolic succession are those who remain faithful to the Apostles’ teachings—which are known through the bible. Most of the orthodox Anglicans in Common Cause are evangelical—and have no problem at all with such a definition.
“And how can Canterbury recognize two overlapping provinces in the same country?” Take a look at the history of the Episcopal/Anglican presence in the Philippines and I believe one can see two distinct churches in the same geographical locale. They are called the Anglipayans and the Episcopals.
I know it’s been done before, but did one group in the Philippines break away with the other over issues of faith and doctrine?
Is one group suing the other in the most vindictive vicious way ever seen among religions on American soil?
I think it would be very difficult for this Archbishop of Canterbury—especially since he himself is allied with TEC on the homosexuality-is-a-blessing hogwash—to recognize a competing province in North America.
Just one more reason why this ABC must resign.
Any chance that the Diocese of Texas (down here in the greater Houston area) - or at least part of it - will secede anytime soon?
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