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To: Iscool; vladimir998; big'ol_freeper

“All you are doing is repeating what your church taught you...You can’t respond to plain scripture???”

I, of course that’s what I am saying. The only reason you read what you read for scripture, except for a few amendments made by Luther, is because “my church” decided that’s what you’d read. The only scripture is what The Church says is scripture and it only means what The Church says it means. And The Church made those decisions by measuring what was passing for scripture 1700 years ago against what The Church then and now believes. Its really that simple, I. Reading scripture outside the context and guidance of The Church is a hit or miss proposition and given the fallen state of the world, more likely to be miss than hit.

For example, you have doubtless heard of that woman who was elected heresiarch in chief of the Episcopal Church. Her agitation for gay marriage and sermonizing that Christ is only “one of the ways” to God are she insists, biblically based and that although her interpretations of scripture are innovative, unheard of in 2000 years of Christianity, nevertheless “the Holy Spirit is doing a new thing” and has guided her organization to become a “prophetic voice” in the modern world. This is where reading scripture without reference to what The Church believes inevitably leads... to error and spiritual death.


56 posted on 12/29/2008 4:46:43 AM PST by Kolokotronis ( Christ is Born! Glorify Him!)
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To: Kolokotronis
Talk about blind faith...But your faith is in your religion, not God's Holy Words...

For example, you have doubtless heard of that woman who was elected heresiarch in chief of the Episcopal Church.

This is where reading scripture without reference to what The Church believes inevitably leads... to error and spiritual death.

Her problem is the same as many churches, including yours...PRIVATE INTERPRETATION...God is the interpreter...Not your church...Not thru your church...

I, of course that’s what I am saying. The only reason you read what you read for scripture, except for a few amendments made by Luther, is because “my church” decided that’s what you’d read.

Another mistake on your part...The scripture I read doesn't come from your church...Never did... And the OT I read is what God gave the Jews, long before your church showed up...And the Jews already had the canon of their scriptures down pat...

Your church has fed you a big line...

The only scripture is what The Church says is scripture and it only means what The Church says it means.

Interesting statement when it's clear that when people study the scriptures for themselves, even if they don't get it all right, they leave your church in droves...People that study the scriptures have found that what your church claims is truth doesn't jive with the written word of God...

Oh, and btw, your church didn't author the scriptures...God authored the scriptures and God said He would preserve them...He didn't consult with your church...

57 posted on 12/29/2008 1:12:49 PM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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