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To: TaraP; Star Traveler; Lee N. Field
Yes in when he was returning to earth. But he also said he would come like a *Thief in the Night*

And when would that be exactly?

Since we have a world where the majority does not believe that Jesus Christ is the Saviour of the World and the *Only WAY* by what you say..Many are just going to perish while a few elect will survive.

I’m not following you.

BTW, are you still looking for those quotes from Luke and Mark over here?

55 posted on 01/26/2009 2:08:54 PM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- like crack for the eschatologically naive.")
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To: topcat54

1 Thessalonians 5:2-4 (NIV) for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3 While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape. 4 But you, brothers, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief.

The Scripture does not state in 1 Thessalonians 5:2 referenced above that Jesus will return in the night, anymore than it states in 1 Thessalonians 5:4 referenced above that Jesus will return in the day. There is concurrently daytime and nighttime somewhere on the earth. The Scripture states that Jesus’ Second Coming will be an unexpected and sudden “surprise,” “like a thief” is a surprise.

Isaiah 29:5-6 (NIV) But your many enemies will become like fine dust, the ruthless hordes like blown chaff. Suddenly, in an instant, 6 the LORD Almighty will come with thunder and earthquake and great noise, with windstorm and tempest and flames of a devouring fire.

Malachi 3:1 (NIV) “See, I will send my messenger, who will prepare the way before me. Then suddenly the Lord you are seeking will come to his temple; the messenger of the covenant, whom you desire, will come,” says the LORD Almighty.

Matthew 24:43-44 (NIV) But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

Luke 12:39-40 (NIV) But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what hour the thief was coming, he would not have let his house be broken into. You also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.”

SINCE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE DO NOT BELIEVE IN CHRIST AND THE JEWS DO NOT AS WELL..
How would any of this make sense to them? Coming like a Thief in the Night...That is for the Believer.

The rapture is described primarily in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 and 1 Corinthians 15:50-54. 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 describes the rapture as God resurrecting all believers who have died, giving them glorified bodies, and then departing the earth with those believers who were still alive, who have also been given glorified bodies. “For the Lord Himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever” (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17).


58 posted on 01/26/2009 2:18:27 PM PST by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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